May 10, 20224 yr From the iniBuilds discord, their lead chiming in on their A310 flight model in MSFS vs XP (specific text of note near bottom of discussion below: "Just to be fully clear, our flight model in MSFS is on par to XP, So those still wanting to negate MSFS as a viable sim solution based on those reasons, don't speak too soon") Edited May 10, 20224 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
May 10, 20224 yr This is very interesting. The flight model is getting more and more advanced in MSFS. It's frightening the pace that MSFS is improving. Another thing I noticed about iniBuilds is that they keep announcing new scenery products for MSFS. When I went to their website, it looked like all their recent products were targeted at MSFS. I think iniBuilds is going all in on MSFS. Edited May 10, 20224 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
May 10, 20224 yr Author 1 minute ago, abrams_tank said: This is very interesting. The flight model is getting more and more advanced in MSFS. It's frightening the pace that MSFS is improving. The pace is definitely welcome!... And to be quite honest, I think the MSFS core flight-model/aerodynamics capabilities were being let down by Asobo's poor implementation of their default aircraft (and I didn't really expect them to do more since it's default aircraft after all)... so MSFS just needed some good aircraft developers to come along and properly take advantage of the core aerodynamics engine in their aircraft implementations. Regardless, Asobo keeps speeding forward with adding features like CFD, softbody physics, world airflow improvements etc so it's only going to get better. Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
May 10, 20224 yr X-plane flight model superiority is just marketing for simmers! Each software have pros and cons and it applies to both MSFS or XP11. Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
May 10, 20224 yr No idea why all this fuss about flight model, I mean at the end we are just chair pilots and there will be no sim on earth that will ever mock the real thing. Instead, we just enjoy the immersion Edited May 10, 20224 yr by omarsmak30 AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 64GB DDR5 6000MHZ RAM, RX7900XT, FreeSync 165hz 1440p display
May 10, 20224 yr Excellent news, this was my last important purchase parked in XP11 for changing to FS2020. I miss too my 727 from FlyJSim.
May 10, 20224 yr Author Found iniBuilds' discord itself finally... See from here onwards: https://discord.com/channels/535246634448191499/784467650612822016/970767836064677999 ... copy/paste of noteable quotes:MJ — 02/05/2022 Profile mod is how it is int eh aircrafta lot of the xp stuff that was not done, has been implemented in msfs We will be making statements on our future plans soon thoughBut first later this week, we have a big announcement MJ — 04/05/2022 trust me, hang in there. It’s going well. Cammac — 06/05/2022 All I can say is we have based the handling from the real aircraft. It's not as protected as the later family aircraft. A310 line pilots even reduced the speed back when in LVL change and then press LVL change so it actually sits at the correct speed as they expected it to overshoot. And none of them use PROFILE on the line. Some of course try but most report trying to use it and then giving up. And I understand you have some experience but we did also have quite a few people rated on the aircraft validate it's AP handling and it's quirks. MJ — 08/05/2022 To be fully clear, you bought a product for XP11 XP12 was not on the market whatsoever We have never sold a product saying XP 12 comparability is to be expectedJust to be fully clear, our flight model in MSFS is on par to XPSo those still wanting to negate MSFS as a viable sim solution based on those reasons - don’t speak too soon. Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
May 11, 20224 yr @lwt1971 YOU are the man! I absolutely hate discord and therefore I'm soo happy when someone reports news from this afwul app/website.
May 11, 20224 yr Author 7 hours ago, Konterhalbe said: @lwt1971 YOU are the man! I absolutely hate discord and therefore I'm soo happy when someone reports news from this afwul app/website. Lol glad to be of help!... It's easier to navigate and read in a browser via computer I find (rather than mobile), and just seems like the most current discussions/news directly from developers are to be found on their discords. Since each discord channel is effectively like a long-running group chat I agree trying to find info there is like hunting for needles in multiple haystacks. Edited May 11, 20224 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
May 17, 20224 yr Author Latest from iniBuilds discord and lead dev 'MJ' chiming in on status re: A310 for MSFS: https://discord.com/channels/535246634448191499/784467650612822016/975704764627169280 planes1 — Today at 06:22 Ini please, just an update about the a310 for msfs.. I only have hopes for you guys when it comes to long haul aircraft right now and that’s all Ive been wanting to flyMJ — Today at 06:26 it’s been going amazing hang in thereTang0 — Today at 12:29 It will be interesting to see whether some users will still experience heavy fps drops the longer the flight runsMJ — Today at 12:40 new code base - no sasl and that wasn't an issue for most users - xp and poor pc specs Edited May 17, 20224 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
May 17, 20224 yr On 5/10/2022 at 9:48 PM, sd_flyer said: X-plane flight model superiority is just marketing for simmers! Each software have pros and cons and it applies to both MSFS or XP11. Tell that to these guys: https://nasacentral.force.com/s/course-offering/a0Bt0000004lS6jEAE/xplane-11-flight-simulator-development-virtual Edited May 17, 20224 yr by mtaxp
May 17, 20224 yr Author 2 hours ago, Ridvan Celik said: I'm really keen for this bird too. Love the oldies. Ya something about them... I guess this will also be the first high fidelity long-hauler wide-body for MSFS before the likes of the PMDG 777/747 and others drop. Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
May 17, 20224 yr Is the A300 coming, too? Don‘t like the A310 too much, it‘s like its chubby unattractive brother. 😂
May 17, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, mtaxp said: Tell that to these guys: https://nasacentral.force.com/s/course-offering/a0Bt0000004lS6jEAE/xplane-11-flight-simulator-development-virtual Graphic visualization team? Wow they up to rough start LOL Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
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