10 hours ago, JaneRachel said:

Hey David,

Don't use the bar on the autopilot. Assign the "autopilot off" option in controls to a button on your joystick or keyboard. Press that button to disconnect the autopilot. Quickly press  again to silence the horn (this is how it happens in real life with an autopilot disconnect on the yoke, including the second press - which confirms your intent)

Had to step in here, seeing as you was asking Jane to turn it off ;))

all the best

Jane

Use name checks out...thanks for stepping in, Jane. 🙂

David, as Jane has mentioned: you want to either click the AP disconnect on the yoke, or bind a button or key to this function.

With a typical setup, first click disconnects AP and begins alarm, second click silences alarm. 

I use Lorby's AAO to map the appropriate yoke button to the function. I also do the same for the AT disconnect. In general, I have more luck with AAO than with setting the button directly in the sim, so that's what I pretty much always use for the PMDG 737. It's a modesty-priced program which I highly recommend.

 

If this "honking" starts after you have landed, I doubt that it is the autopilot (assuming that you have disconnected the autopilot prior to touchdown). Have you started the APU before shutting down at the gate? The horn will sound if you have not done that.

Edited May 31, 20224 yr by Christopher Low

5 hours ago, irocx said:

Ironically, we have been advised against this very simple control binding for almost to 2 years now because the base sim "just doesn't support it, yet", despite this capability being available in past iterations of MSFS since 2002.

Maybe a person with your pedigree could convince the devs that basic AP functionality such as this should be universal across AC and not dependent on a 3rd party?   Hopefully, this could be "squeezed" into a update in the near future as they have conveyed they're sincerely dedicated to improving the core sim.

What do you mean? Who has advised against it or says the “base sim just doesn’t support it”?

I have been using the default MSFS control binding for “autopilot off”, (assigned to the red button on my alpha yoke), since the sim released. It works with every default and third party aircraft, including the PMDG, the Maddog and the Fenix. It works exactly as it does in FSX/P3D.

15 hours ago, JaneRachel said:

there should never be any reason to touch the bar on the autopilot deck in a 737, unless you are dealing with an abnormal situation.

Heck...EVERY flight of mine is a/an "abnormal situation" 🤣

When horn thingies go off...I just start pressing buttons until it stops, or until Leslie Neilson comes into the cockpit and says this:

 

8 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

Heck...EVERY flight of mine is a/an "abnormal situation" 🤣

When horn thingies go off...I just start pressing buttons until it stops, or until Leslie Neilson comes into the cockpit and says this:

 

this really made me laugh, thanks Steve 🙂

13 minutes ago, JaneRachel said:

this really made me laugh, thanks Steve 🙂

My pleasure Jane....you see, as a virtual painter for over 20 years, inhaling all those virtual paint fumes have affected my cerebral cortex and turned just about everything I see into a comedic opportunity. 

Just the other day in fact, I found it strangely funny that I could spell Lufthansa incorrectly on the cargo containers when I just copied the logo from an official LH website. 🤔

 

I taxied in last night with the horn honking, but the light was not flashing, so it took me awhile to find and push it. Its the AFDS Autopilot Flight Director System, three lights, the left light was not flashing but the horn stopped when I pushed it, maybe a bug. I have short term memory loss, so only remember disconnecting auto pilot and auto throttle before landing.

16 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

What do you mean? Who has advised against it or says the “base sim just doesn’t support it”?

I have been using the default MSFS control binding for “autopilot off”, (assigned to the red button on my alpha yoke), since the sim released. It works with every default and third party aircraft, including the PMDG, the Maddog and the Fenix. It works exactly as it does in FSX/P3D.

Working Title advises:  Autopilot modes cannot be triggered via keybindings or controllers and must currently be triggered in the cockpit with the mouse.

I have AP master assigned on my ch yoke bound within the sim.  It works to disengage the AP,  but it has on occasion "upset" the AP logic on default or WT equipped AC if you then re-engage the AP - even when using the mouse.  I believe Matt said it was a result of underlying AP sim code and would be resolved eventually as they integrated more of their changes into the sim.

You may be an external application for your bindings, hence why you don't have issues.  They also state:  External binding applications are adding support for LVars and HEvents. Used SimVars are documented in our Guide on SimVars.

I dunno, I have always had some issues with this particular binding and for me, it doesn't work exactly as in FSX/P3D.  I am assuming this behavior is what WT is referring to.

Edited June 1, 20224 yr by irocx

17 minutes ago, irocx said:

Autopilot modes cannot be triggered via keybindings or controllers and must currently be triggered in the cockpit with the mouse.

This is totally and completely a nuance of the implementation of the CJ4 and has nothing to do with any sim AP issues. This recommendation applies _only_ to the CJ4 and to nothing else.

This was a side effect of the way we had to implement the custom logic over the sim AP two years ago, and doesn't at all apply to WASM planes (which the 737 is) or planes using the new JS APIs that came later.

18 minutes ago, irocx said:

Autopilot modes cannot be triggered via keybindings or controllers and must currently be triggered in the cockpit with the mouse.

This is totally and completely a nuance of the implementation of the CJ4 and has nothing to do with any sim AP issues. This recommendation applies _only_ to the CJ4 and to nothing else.

This was a side effect of the way we had to implement the custom logic over the sim AP two years ago, and doesn't at all apply to WASM planes (which the 737 is) or planes using the new JS APIs that came later.

17 minutes ago, MattNischan said:

This is totally and completely a nuance of the implementation of the CJ4 and has nothing to do with any sim AP issues. This recommendation applies _only_ to the CJ4 and to nothing else.

This was a side effect of the way we had to implement the custom logic over the sim AP two years ago, and doesn't at all apply to WASM planes (which the 737 is) or planes using the new JS APIs that came later.

Matt, Thanks for the clarification.  Does this not apply to the Longitude w/ WT G3000 too or the WT G1000 NXI?  I still have issues with using the AP on/off binding on my ch yoke, especially with the G3000.

 If I use the button more than a couple of times in a flight, I still get some erratic behavior(s) upon reengaging the AP via the mouse in VC (ie: the AC veers into a dive and Lnav or heading modes will not work).

I understand that the new WASM planes etc wouldn't have these types of issues.

Edited June 1, 20224 yr by irocx

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