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Ground level fps with Asobo PG cities deactivated.

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Hopefully Asobo can get to the bottom of this, looks like they are at least investigating currently...

https://www.flightsimulator.com/feedback-snapshot/

BUGS – LAST 3 MONTHS
RANK        VOTES          DESCRIPTION                                              APPROACH
#01  →      421 votes    Massive FPS Drop Because of SU 9   -   Under Investigation
#02  ↑↑      156 votes      MSFS Application Error – Memory Could Not Be Read   -   Under Investigation
#03  ↑        131 votes      Toolbar Windows are Narrow and Don’t Remember Their Position (VR)    -   Started (Fix in SU 10)
#04  ↑↑      111 votes      Italian Cities are Covered by Trees    -   Under Investigation
#05  ↓        92 votes      Stutters on Ground while Taxing and Taking off, same as SU 8   -   Under Investigation
#06  ↑        88 votes        Azure ATC Only Has One Gender Type on Each Frequency – For ATC And…   -   Under Investigation
#07  ↑↑      86 votes        [Xbox] CTD on Start Up After Installation of World Update IX Italy   -   Fixed
#08  ↑        64 votes      Main Thread is Being Hammered   -   Under Investigation
#09  ↑↑      64 votes      Terrain LOD Overloading Main Thread   -   Under Investigation
 

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Len
1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS
Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD

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Looks promising for SU10. I think it's worth the wait. Seems like a wise decision spending more time between SUs. 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

2 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Hopefully Asobo can get to the bottom of this, looks like they are at least investigating currently...
 

I hope they have narrowed it down to PG, specifically the PG packages noted in this thread.

Rhett

7800X3D 96 GB G.Skill Flare  Gigabyte 4090  Crucial P5 Plus 2TB

#06  ↑        88 votes        Azure ATC Only Has One Gender Type on Each Frequency – For ATC And…   -   Under Investigation

I wish somehow the male voicing in particular didn't sound so fake, too perfect, not realistic sounding, too polite, I don't know exactly how to describe it.  It's not concontenation it's just odd voice inflection or something like that which makes not sound like actual ATC.

Noel

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8 hours ago, Mace said:

I think those of you with 12700K's or even 10-series and up cpu's are able to "brute-force" decent framerates despite the PG bug, because as @RJC68 says you can unlock frames and see the fps impact of the bug, even with something like a 12700K.

I've been checking out some of the areas mentioned in this thread and I'm not seeing any noticeable degradation on the ground. Maybe it's a 12th gen CPU thing. I lock FPS at 30 though and run at 4k. All the world updates are installed and PG is on.

Intel Core i5-12600k, Nvidia RTX 4070 Super, 128 Gigs.

1 hour ago, JSmith2112 said:

I've been checking out some of the areas mentioned in this thread and I'm not seeing any noticeable degradation on the ground. Maybe it's a 12th gen CPU thing. I lock FPS at 30 though and run at 4k. All the world updates are installed and PG is on.

I have an 11700K and tried a quick test last night at KJFK and KBOS. I had a drop of about 10fps at the gate. Fortunately I do very little flying in the US.

Mark

 

 i9-13900K @ 5.8Ghz / Asus TUF 4090 OC / 32 GB DDR 5 / Corsair 1000W PS /  Pimax Crystal / 2 SATA SSD / 2TB M2 SSD/ DOF Reality H3 motion platform/ Win 11 

Here is what I get at KMOD. Vsync was off for this, but I usually lock at 30 FPS.

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Intel Core i5-12600k, Nvidia RTX 4070 Super, 128 Gigs.

12 hours ago, JSmith2112 said:

Here is what I get at KMOD. Vsync was off for this, but I usually lock at 30 FPS.

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I'm relatively new to this discovery. 

I've tried this (deleting PG cities other than US) and it definitely worked for me.

What would be really interesting to know, is how many users are experiencing this phenomena.

I hope Asobo/MS devote some time to resolving this so that the need to uninstall PG is no longer necessary.

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Steve Summers

53 minutes ago, XCLTM3 said:

I hope Asobo/MS devote some time to resolving this so that the need to uninstall PG is no longer necessary.

Some people have mentioned high CPU usage on on the mainthread but I'm just not seeing it on my system. The sim runs fine, probably the best it's ever been and I have all the PG scenery installed.

Intel Core i5-12600k, Nvidia RTX 4070 Super, 128 Gigs.

40 minutes ago, JSmith2112 said:

Some people have mentioned high CPU usage on on the mainthread but I'm just not seeing it on my system. The sim runs fine, probably the best it's ever been and I have all the PG scenery installed.

Could be your hardware ie CPU handles the pressure with ease.

My CPU is older than yours and OC'd. It isn't running high and handling MSFS quite well for the most part. 

I'm just lightly perplexed as to why some non-US PG cities are adversely impacting the US PG cities, at least on my rig (and some other users also).

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"Tertia Optio, Latebra Factum"

Steve Summers

1 hour ago, XCLTM3 said:

I'm just lightly perplexed as to why some non-US PG cities are adversely impacting the US PG cities, at least on my rig (and some other users also).

It is indeed perplexing, and I haven't seen any explanation of this phenomenon. Nor have I seen any official statement from Asobo regarding this bug. 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

6 hours ago, XCLTM3 said:

Could be your hardware ie CPU handles the pressure with ease.

Could be. A recent motherboard failure forced me to upgrade, so I decided to go 12th gen on motherboard and CPU. I used to have a Intel i7-8700. Some apps on the i5-12600 KF are just way faster. The sim seems to run at roughly the same FPS but I'm not seeing one CPU core getting maxed out or nearly maxed out like I used to on the i7.

Here is a pic taken at KMOD. The CPU is actually downclocking from 4.5 GHz to 4.06 GHz because the utilisation is so low. Power management settings are at balanced.

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Intel Core i5-12600k, Nvidia RTX 4070 Super, 128 Gigs.

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