June 11, 20223 yr As a matter of interest, I carried out a quick test. Same aircraft, same airports (default), and checked frame rates with PG On, and PG Off. There was a significant increase in frame rate when PG was Off. (Didn't have to uninstall PG). By increase, I mean 15+ frames and increased smoothness. Mainly, the PG set to Off increased frame rates in cities in the USA. Even a smaller airport like KSNA (default of course) - the frames went from 18 on the ground at the airport with PG On, to 39 with PG Off. In several European & Central/Southern American capitals, PG On did not kill frame rates and I didn't need to switch PG Off. From what I ascertained, there is something unique in terms of USA PG. Ryzen 9 9950X3D @ 5.6Ghz + Corsair Nautilus Water Cooler - 64Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz - ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16Gb - Samsung G9 Odyssey 49 inch 5120x1440 Monitor - ASUS Crosshair X870E - Win 11 Pro - MSFS 2020 - 3 x NVMe M.2 1Tb - Fractal North XL Case "Tertia Optio, Latebra Factum" Steve Summers
June 11, 20223 yr There seems to be some confusion in this thread over turning PG OFF universally versus deleting the optional world update PG cities. Obviously turning off PG entirely will yield higher frames. That's a given.
June 11, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Farlis said: Seriously, do you not know what World Updates consist of? 3 hours ago, Farlis said: Then why didn't you stick with X-Plane if the entire Online Data Component is of no interest to you? Don't understand the need to be so judgemental and aggressive here. I haven't seen jcomm comment negatively here about MSFS, nor compare it unfavourably to any other flight sim. If someone misunderstands the features of a flight sim, surely its better to gently educate rather than disparage their viewpoint. Even if there isn't any misunderstanding, some acceptance that people do things differently should be acceptable. After all, how we run our sims is entirely down to personal preference. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
June 11, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, F737MAX said: Don't understand the need to be so judgemental and aggressive here. It’s Farlis. Don’t expect any friendliness or politeness from his posts. Thanks to @Fielder for elaborating further on this. I’ve no idea how many users are affected by this, but it’s certainly disappointing that the issue was raised during beta testing as @pmb points out, and no fix has been issued. Edited June 11, 20223 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
June 11, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, XCLTM3 said: [...] In several European & Central/Southern American capitals, PG On did not kill frame rates and I didn't need to switch PG Off. From what I ascertained, there is something unique in terms of USA PG. That seems to chime with what people have said on other threads. Deleting the World Update PG Cities files from Content Manager recovers FPS when flying in the U.S. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
June 11, 20223 yr Thanks to all the people who are contributing positively to this thread with all the help. Just to make this clear... I always fly with photogrammetry off anyway, so do I need to delete the photogrammetry cities? Or would it help frame rates more, even though my photogrammetry is turned off in the sim? Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
June 11, 20223 yr I checked out this issue months ago and it makes no difference one way or the other for my setup. I can delete the requisite files, or reinstall them, or turn PG outright off or on and I have no problems anywhere w/ performance. But then again I'm real happy w/ rock-solid 30fps by Vsync in-sim. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
June 11, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, jcomm said: Most of the time I am using it to play with the airliners, pretending I am a captain on the cockpit so, nota much time to glance the scenery details unless it's an airport I know from RL... Since the Fenix and the PMDG 737 are out most of my flying is with airliners as well. But believe me, even at FL350 it makes a huge difference wheter one has turned on the aerial images of not. You don't have to actually guess what you are looking at when you are familiar with the area you are flying over. I see no reason to limit yourself, unless your internet connection isn't up for it. Edited June 11, 20223 yr by Farlis
June 11, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Noel said: I checked out this issue months ago It only started with SU9... 4 weeks ago. (6 if you count beta) Did this as soon as it was mentioned on the main forum, my main thread was getting absolutely hammered for no reason in places with SU9. Deleted these files and 20fps gained, main thread back to normal(ish).
June 11, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, The Moose said: Did this as soon as it was mentioned on the main forum, my main thread was getting absolutely hammered for no reason in places with SU9. Deleted these files and 20fps gained, main thread back to normal(ish). And even worse: Users not watching any forums (I guess the majority, notably new users), set their plane to KSFO or KJFK, observe the dragging and stuttering mess and throw MSFS away - while MSFS actually is able for high performance, it just has a temporary bug. If I were Asobo/MS I would task a dozen of dedicated Asobo programmers to specifically repair this within a week and release a hotfix immediately. Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
June 11, 20223 yr I just wish there was a list of exactly what PG packages you can delete vs ones you cant. There is talk of WU packages with their associated numbers, but the content manage does not list them that way. For example; Game of the Year, yes or no?? CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro | GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K
June 11, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said: I just wish there was a list of exactly what PG packages you can delete vs ones you cant. There is talk of WU packages with their associated numbers, but the content manage does not list them that way. For example; Game of the Year, yes or no?? Search for “photogrammetry cities”, click list view then delete all of them. Edited June 11, 20223 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
June 11, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, F737MAX said: Deleting the World Update PG Cities files from Content Manager recovers FPS when flying in the U.S. So, if we don't fly in the US we have no benefit deleting them, correct? Alvega CPU: AMD 7800X3D | COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240L Core ARGB | GPU: RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB OC | Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI |RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000MHz PC5-48000 2x16GB CL36 | SSDs: WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe SSD (WIN11), WD Black SN850X SSD 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe (MSFS), Crucial MX500 2TB (Other stuff) | CASE: Forgeon Arcanite ARGB Mesh Tower ATX White | Power Supply: Forgeon Bolt PSU 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular White
June 11, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Farlis said: Then why didn't you stick with X-Plane if the entire Online Data Component is of no interest to you? you are unbelievable AMD 9950X3D | 64 GB RAM | RTX 5090 FMR: 747 FO, 757/767 CAPT, 737 Check Airman Current 777 CAPT
June 11, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, Alvega said: So, if we don't fly in the US we have no benefit deleting them, correct? If you don’t have the performance reduction on the ground in Europe there’s no point in deleting the PG files. If you do, it might be worth the try. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
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