Sim Update 10 beta is out!

[Roy Warren 426]

1 hour ago, spitzer said:

Why does asobo still updates default airbus neo? There are already very good buses out there freeware or payware. They can focus on grainy and pixelated clouds, live weather, traffic, atc instead. 

I have the FBW and the Fenix.  I still have not been able to complete a flight with either one afte two months.  The default Airbus Neo is the only thing I have been able to complete a flight with. Eventually maybe I will be able to fly them, but the learning curve is steep for me.  So leave it along for us slow guys.

Roy

[roi1862 602]

A really nice improvement is the clouds shadows. Much more dominant now.

[Alvega 2,124]

2 hours ago, MattNischan said:

Are you sure you made it into the beta? There's a little search bar with a magnifying glass right at the top of the VFR map window. You can also click on any navaid icon on the map.

In addition, you should also now notice that navdata loads immediately on the map (used to take upwards of 30-60 seconds to get all the data) and airspaces are drawn with nice smooth curves. Changing zoom should also be a smooth transition instead of a jump to the new range.

Edit: If you have the WT G3000, that includes a VFR map mod that may be overwriting the new VFR map. You can follow these instructions to disable it:
 

 

Found out it's the PMS50 GTN750 mod that is causing the problems with the new VFR map. I'm going to report it on their Discord. If I disable the GTN mod the VFR map shows up as it should.

[Bobsk8 12,756]

2 minutes ago, Alvega said:

Found out it's the PMS50 GTN750 mod that is causing the problems with the new VFR map. I'm going to report it on their Discord. If I disable the GTN mod the VFR map shows up as it should.

That's a bummer. 

 

[vyper883 20]

I've been jumping on Betas, since day 1. This time I'll bide my time. AIG Live traffic is a must for me. I don't want to break it. 

As far as DLSS and directX optimizations, the consensus seems to lean towards not much added to the table, and some weird artifacts and blurs to displays due to DLSS. I'm not in a hurry to experience this, even though there is the option to simply not use DLSS or Dx12, due to breaking AIG Traffic.

Removing encryption from premium aircraft is something I was looking forward to, as we know modders will be jumping all over the 787 and other aircraft, just as FBW did with the NEO. Still early on that front though. So, I'll wait. Everything is stable on my end with SU9, well enough for me to be enjoying my flights. Just my .02.

Edited July 8, 2022 by vyper883

[Maxis 1,866]

2 minutes ago, Roy Warren said:

I have the FBW and the Fenix.  I still have not been able to complete a flight with either one afte two months.  The default Airbus Neo is the only thing I have been able to complete a flight with. Eventually maybe I will be able to fly them, but the learning curve is steep for me.  So leave it along for us slow guys.

Roy

Don't feel bad .. I started on the MSFS neo and didn't dare try the FBW until late 2021 because i knew i had a lot to learn (especially with the MCDU/FMC and navigation). Easyjetsimpilot and A320 simpilot were my Youtube flight instructors for a very long time !! More recently I've been soaking up those tutorials by 737NG Driver as well ! 🙂

Gotta start somewhere the MSFS Neo gives a decent platform to get the basics down and is worth fixing up

[Alvega 2,124]

16 minutes ago, Alvega said:

Found out it's the PMS50 GTN750 mod that is causing the problems with the new VFR map. I'm going to report it on their Discord. If I disable the GTN mod the VFR map shows up as it should.

After some more tests (and many sim restarts) got to the conclusion that it's not just the PMS50 GTN breaking the new features of the VFR map. It's also the WT G3000 mod, even with the config file set to false as @MattNischan told me to do.

So, any of these mods, if enabled, break the new features of the VFR map.

[The Moose 1,177]

DX12 is working so much better than before, so thats a positive.    DLSS is boosting FPS and lowering GPU usage as expected, but it's certainly not as sharp as it is in Red Dead Redemption 2 or Death Stranding, both of which look sharper with DLSS than TAA. That's not the case here.

I see they are using a very new version of DLSS (2.4.6.0)  I'm going to test a few of the older DLSS DLL's and see what difference they make.

[roi1862 602]

So, using same settings as SU9, getting lower performance. Mainthread is getting even more hammered sadly... DLSS does not improve anything for those of us with strong GPU's who were Mainthread limited.

[MrBitstFlyer 3,881]

27 minutes ago, vyper883 said:

As far as DLSS and directX optimizations the consensus seems to lean towards, not much added to the table, and some weird artifacts and blurs to displays due to DLSS

It may be MSFS discover a bug with the implementation of DLSS during the beta.  For me at the moment, DLSS on Quality is very blurry.

[MrBitstFlyer 3,881]

1 minute ago, The Moose said:

DX12 is working so much better than before, so thats a positive.    DLSS is boosting FPS and lowering GPU usage as expected, but it's certainly not as sharp as it is in Red Dead Redemption 2 or Death Stranding, both of which look sharper with DLSS than TAA. That's not the case here.

I see they are using a very new version of DLSS (2.4.6.0)  I'm going to test a few of the older DLSS DLL's and see what difference they make.

Maybe we need some more time for DLSS to mature on MSFS, or should all of the AI learning be complete now?  I have the latest NVIDIA driver, but no mention of MSFS in the notes - maybe a new driver needs releasing for MSFS/DLSS?

[Bobsk8 12,756]

18 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Maybe we need some more time for DLSS to mature on MSFS, or should all of the AI learning be complete now?  I have the latest NVIDIA driver, but no mention of MSFS in the notes - maybe a new driver needs releasing for MSFS/DLSS?

Thank heaven this is in beta, would be a horror story if they dropped this on everyone. 

[MrBitstFlyer 3,881]

10 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Thank heaven this is in beta, would be a horror story if they dropped this on everyone. 

It is running fine for a beta.  If I go back to all my original settings it looks as good as always.  DX12 + DLSS at balanced has gained me 10fps, but its just more blurry than I was expecting.  Still, its only day one of the beta.

[Fielder 3,683]

Apparently you can't enable the DLSS feature in the menus, as I finally found out after downloading the patch (I wanted to test a well known flight without the SU beta first). You can run DX 12 or DX 11 from the options menu, but apparently DLSS is always on in the patch.

 

My test has just been done: and here's my short reaction:

Long reaction: Munster all the way to France (Lake Geneva). The Swiss mesh package in marketplace installed.

Before SU beta: 30 fps mostly. Would drop if I panned around (I did have side view pre rendering on in options). Stutters every 20 seconds. This has always been  true flying in Switzerland using swiss mesh for me : stutters.

 

After SU 10 beta: fps 30 mostly. Would not drop if I panned around (in fact in increased to 32 or 33 fps). No stutters at all, no not one for the whole flight (its a half hour or so flight). 

Half way thru the flight I upped the sim rate to 4x and then 8x: Still no stutters! 

You can see  my lowly stats: I had graphics global set to Ultra. Render scaling 140. Both terrain and objects LOD set to 200.

Vsync ON. Frame rate limit: 100% (this is the new menu name of what used to be called '120 fps'. (This has always given me the most stability and most fps, locking 'frame rate limit' inside MSFS to way above realistic expectations and turning on Vsync inside MSFS).

 

This is lightyears better than I've seen on this particular flight before. And I've done the same dozens of times (its my standard test flight to test new options). 

[warbirds 555]

Just tried the beta and wow,,,, brighter, more colorful and I can actually use DX12 now