4 minutes ago, ConstVoid said:

You can set AI to offline if you have Traffic BGL files of your own that you want to appear alongside the AIG stuff. For example AIG only has corporate jet type GA, so you could have your own GA traffic in a BGL as well. Creating your own BGL file is another task completely - and one I'm not proposing to document myself 🙂

That's true. There is a thread on how to make this work both here on Avsim as well as on the official website. There is a mod that handles this over at flightsim.to, but it's not simply "plug and play" to get it working 100%. 

But to keep things simple: To have AIG Traffic Controller inject traffic, set MSFS AI traffic to off. To have MSFS handle the traffic, set AI traffic to live online traffic. 

6 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

The sim must be assigning the wrong model/livery to flights.

Of note:  Simple Traffic and Realtime Online Traffic and MSFS ATC always jive correctly--ATC will call the correct airlines by livery every time.

14 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

But to keep things simple: To have AIG Traffic Controller inject traffic, set MSFS AI traffic to off. To have MSFS handle the traffic, set AI traffic to live online traffic. 

Cool. I emphasized that a bit more in the post.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Of note:  Simple Traffic and Realtime Online Traffic and MSFS ATC always jive correctly--ATC will call the correct airlines by livery every time.

Not always since Simple Traffic doesn't have every single airline in the world. But that's the same with AIG, but AIG has a ton more airlines that ST.

 

12 hours ago, Darth_Vapor666 said:

I had AIG working for me after a bit of initial pain. But couldn't see (and perhaps there was a solution) any GA traffic. Also was getting stutters. In hindsight, it may not have been AIG related but at the time, the idea of an app trawling through all kinds of sites, old and new for aircraft textures didn't sit right with me.

Everything the installer does they have permission from whoever they're grabbing the files from, there's nothing malicious about it.

There is a GA Aircraft file you can get on flightsim.to that will give you GA.

8 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

Back on the topic of AIG, I've loaded about a dozen major airlines from AIG into the sim, including all the major carriers flying to Vancouver (like China Eastern and Air Canada) and I'm using the default AI real live traffic. Interestingly, I get lots of plane models with liveries but sometimes the livery doesn't match the flight.  For example a China Eastern flight was wearing an Air Canada livery.  The sim must be assigning the wrong model/livery to flights. It's strange, but I'm not going to worry about it. There's enough variety for me and I don't need plane spotting accuracy.

If there's a mismatching livery in live traffic, it's most likely because AIG doesn't have a livery for that aircraft yet.

If there's no matching livery the sim just grabs the first livery listed in the aircraft.cfg for that aircraft model.

Edited August 23, 20223 yr by Tuskin38

Do AI Manager and Traffic Controller have to be on the same hard drive as the sim?

1 hour ago, Shack95 said:

Do AI Manager and Traffic Controller have to be on the same hard drive as the sim?

No. You can place them anywhere you want. Unzip them and they are ready to run.

6 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

But that's the same with AIG, but AIG has a ton more airlines that ST.

How many does AIG have, and how many does ST have now w/ the latest update?  Quite frankly, the number of people who care will be those familiar w/ that particular obscure airlines.  IOW, most of us haven't heard of a large number of these 5th tier airlines.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

How many does AIG have, and how many does ST have now w/ the latest update?  Quite frankly, the number of people who care will be those familiar w/ that particular obscure airlines.  IOW, most of us haven't heard of a large number of these 5th tier airlines.

I don't have the exact numbers. But. There's also the issue about the models. AIG have realistic models depicting realistic airliners. You will see A320s, 747s, A380s and so on, and not the random pointy noses. But this is a moot point. It depends how much realism you want and how much tinkering you're willing to do to make it work. It doesn't require much, and it's free. I guess one can compare it to default vs modded default aircraft. I much prefer the modded DA40NG to the default. 

Edited August 23, 20223 yr by Cpt_Piett

1 hour ago, Noel said:

How many does AIG have

There's 1,384 flight plans. So around that. That number includes corporate jets and some military transport flights, which is why I said 'around'.

I don't know how any airlines simple traffic has, I don't own it.

There's 231 aircraft models, but that also includes things like different engine variants. For example, there's 2 variants of each 787 model, one with RR engines and one with GE engines.

36 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

AIG have realistic models depicting realistic airliners. You will see A320s, 747s, A380s and so on

Also some of the aircraft have different engine variants. Like the 747 variants are also split into Rolls Royce, Generic Electric and Pratt & Whitney engine variants for extra realism.

Edited August 23, 20223 yr by Tuskin38

On 8/22/2022 at 4:48 PM, Noel said:

What?  I thought this was a major benefit of AIG over ST?

 

22 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

I get lots of plane models with liveries but sometimes the livery doesn't match the flight.  For example a China Eastern flight was wearing an Air Canada livery.

  It's not AIG traffic that is showing airlines at the wrong airports, it's a flaw in how the sim works with Real Time Traffic. If it can't find the correct type and livery it just uses something else. 

16 hours ago, Noel said:

Simple Traffic and Realtime Online Traffic and MSFS ATC always jive correctly

 You only think that it is jiving correctly, but considering the very limited number of liveries and models in ST, the sim just skips what it doesn't know how to display. 

8 minutes ago, Dave_YVR said:

 

  It's not AIG traffic that is showing airlines at the wrong airports, it's a flaw in how the sim works with Real Time Traffic. If it can't find the correct type and livery it just uses something else. 

There's something else going on... I saw an Air Canada flight from LAX (live traffic) on the tarmac in Vancouver that had a China Eastern livery on it, and I have both liveries installed. <shrug>

Edited August 24, 20223 yr by Virtual-Chris

22 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

BTW, what do you use for ground traffic setting?  I'm at 25%. I tried 50% and nearly every gate was occupied. 25% seems realistic. Oh, and I notice that the ground traffic is random and mostly not part of the live traffic.

Ground Traffic should be turned off if you want any sort of realism, it's just random statics added by the sim to fill spots. 

1 minute ago, Dave_YVR said:

Ground Traffic should be turned off if you want any sort of realism, it's just random statics added by the sim to fill spots. 

Yeah, I figured that out. Unfortunately, turning it off isn't exactly realistic either as the airport will only populate with flights that are immanently leaving, which means most gates are empty.

Just now, Virtual-Chris said:

I saw an Air Canada flight from LAX (live traffic) on the tarmac in Vancouver that had a China Eastern livery on it, and I have both liveries.

 I'm assuming the type was a 737 Max which isn't included in the Air Canada plans from AIG at this point so it uses something that you do have. This is 100% a sim problem though, the Real Time traffic is still very flawed.. What I've done is added my own collection of AI 737 Max 8's that I commonly see at YVR.