3 hours ago, aktorsyl said:

Well I mean, AIG is free if you want an interim solution. It just also happens to be very good 😄

 

 

AIG is way too complicated (for me). 😉 I watched a tutorial and decided to not even give it a try. Hence my interest in FSLTL... so if someone might answer my questions about it I'd be much obliged. 😉

EDIT
I also read that FS Traffic might be coming... how does that one fit in with all available traffic solutions...?

EDIT 2
And while I am at it... what's the best and most up to date tutorial that shows how to use AIG as simple as can be? I did see a tutorial that also uses Real Traffic or something like that but I'd like to see how AIG works on its own. Yes, I know I said I decided to not even give it a try but every video I see says AIG is the best so, yeah, well... 😉

EDIT 3
Hm...

 

 

Edited August 22, 20223 yr by tup61

5 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

 It comes down to basic paying attention and situational awareness. The simple one off's irl and pilots are often all over it, "who's that?", "what are they doing here?" It just reinforces the old adage, ignorance is bliss. Just because you don't care what you see for traffic at airports, doesn't mean that its good because it's just there.

No it comes down to solving the most glaring issue w/ the default non-liveries--the ones even a half blind person will notice, and with no hassle whatsoever at very little cost.  In MSFS are you going to get on the radio and report that an airline that doesn't normally appear at a specific airport with your "situational awareness" 🤣  Goofiest justification for AIG I've heard yet.

Unless you're a student of international airline routes and hubs you're very likely only going to have a clue, if that, which airlines fly out of wherever.  ST solves all of this with zero maintenance.  Here was from a few moments ago for this morning fly out of KIAD, a major UAL hub. Notice SAS getting ready to takeoff--they fly in and out Dulles as well.  This is the norm for Simple Traffic which continues to improve steadily with more liveries, and liveries appropriate for the airport they're in. 

 

AIG is time consuming initially but the results are far better, imo. If you just want something to take up space on the ramp without regard to appearance, Simple Traffic should suit you. I've used it but even if you're not into plane spotting, the ultra-simplistic and cartoonish look of the default jets in real liveries will wear thin. AIG is as accurate as you're going to get for the time being and the immersion factor is undeniable. And, AIG is free. Yeah, it's pretty clumsy at first and will occasionally stumble, it's a must have for me. Did I mention free?  

I went into AIG dreading it due to all the posts online about it's complexity, but it was a breeze in all honesty

this is the tutorial I followed;

 

I honestly don't understand what is it that people find complex or complicated about it. It's as simple as filling a couple of boxes.

The "tedious" bit is going through the list of available airlines and selecting which ones to install and which to leave out. I suppose that this is the stage that scares some people off but calling it complicated is a gross exaggeration.

4 hours ago, aktorsyl said:

Well I mean, AIG is free if you want an interim solution. It just also happens to be very good 😄

 

100% agree. I was on the fence for months about AIG, reading on the forum and being apprehensive as I thought it would be too complicated. It really isn’t. There are some very good YouTube tutorials out there, but really there’s just a few steps that need to be taken to get it working. 

Of course if you want all the liveries it’s going to take a while to download, but it can be left to do it’s job in the background / overnight. 

And if something is unclear I’m sure there’s a lot of AIG enthusiasts here that are willing to help. 

To put it this way: I think that the AIG models and liveries are so good, and increases realism so much, that even if another payware option (JustFlight?) came around, I’m not sure I’d be interesting in switching from AIG.

11 hours ago, Nemo said:

That's not what I meant. I can live with it. But seeing a Polish LOT airliner at CYCD Nanaimo is much more confusing. There is no such AIG LOT flight plan to CYCD, so it must be the internal MSFS ai "logic" which is placing it there.

How are you injecting AI? Make sure you have the 'Ground Aircraft Density' slider set to zero in the AI settings or you will get random static aircraft.

If you're using Live Traffic than it may have been a airline AIG doesn't have liveries for, so MSFS just grabs a random livery for that aircraft. For example, AIG doesn't have liveries for Air Canada 737 Max series yet, so you'll see some other livery they do have for the 737 Max.

Edited August 22, 20223 yr by Tuskin38

2 hours ago, EGLD said:

this is the tutorial I followed;

Just followed this tutorial... and man, it's a breeze indeed!!! Time consuming, perhaps, but easy too! Should have started using this sooner! Thanks for the link and all the positive posts about AIG from everyone!

EDIT
Have installed 4 airlines so far and only once I had to manually download a zip. Right now I am doing a bulk install of 11 airlines and all goes automatic so far. Man... what was everyone moaning about? This is easy! I do fly from a lot of different airports though so I suppose I still have a ton of airlines to download...  but it won't have to be done in one day. 😉 I will btw first see how well FSHud manages these AIG liveries: maybe I don't need too much airlines after all.

Edited August 22, 20223 yr by tup61

Hi all!

I read all this thread and now I think if I spent this time learning how to install AIG I would have it installed by now...

Could someone be kind enough to tell me how many FPS does AIG costs? 

And how big is AIG with all the liveries on the drive?

Thank you !

31 minutes ago, tup61 said:

Er... would this work if you don't use Vatsim...?

AIG doesn't want people spreading this around, as it violates the copyright they have on the files.

Via the Discord server, A future update is adding regional presets
Major Global 
Major NA
Major EU
Major SA
Major Africa
Major Asia
Major AUS/NZ

Edited August 22, 20223 yr by Tuskin38

6 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

AIG doesn't want people spreading this around, as it violates the copyright they have on the files.

Aaaaah, got it! Thanks to you (or any Avsim-mod) for removing the video!!!

I’ve hidden the link to the YT video as it violates AIG copyright. Any further attempts to link to sites like this will result in a lengthy holiday. You have been warned.

2 hours ago, tup61 said:

Just followed this tutorial... and man, it's a breeze indeed!!! Time consuming, perhaps, but easy too! Should have started using this sooner! Thanks for the link and all the positive posts about AIG from everyone!

EDIT
Have installed 4 airlines so far and only once I had to manually download a zip. Right now I am doing a bulk install of 11 airlines and all goes automatic so far. Man... what was everyone moaning about? This is easy! I do fly from a lot of different airports though so I suppose I still have a ton of airlines to download...  but it won't have to be done in one day. 😉 I will btw first see how well FSHud manages these AIG liveries: maybe I don't need too much airlines after all.

Told you! Happy you got it working 😄

 

2 hours ago, Noooch said:

Hi all!

I read all this thread and now I think if I spent this time learning how to install AIG I would have it installed by now...

Could someone be kind enough to tell me how many FPS does AIG costs? 

And how big is AIG with all the liveries on the drive?

Thank you !

Mine is just over 30GB (that's with all the airlines downloaded).

I put it on a separate drive and symlinked it to where it wanted to be.

 

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

AIG doesn't want people spreading this around, as it violates the copyright they have on the files.

Via the Discord server, A future update is adding regional presets
Major Global 
Major NA
Major EU
Major SA
Major Africa
Major Asia
Major AUS/NZ

Sad they can’t offer a single download like that. I wonder how would that violate anything? Is that an issue with the models or liveries? I’d have a hard time believing they’ve negotiated rights to every airline livery with the respective airlines anyway.