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Give Reshade a try if you have been reluctant!

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18 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said:

But how many folks here using Reshade have a professionally calibrated display? I suspect very few.

And even those that do have a calibrated display to a D65 white point will generally feel the picture is too warm and prefer a more neutral color temperature. In fact it’s possible that folks with properly calibrated displays are not happy with the picture and using Reshade to correct it.

Everyone can obviously adjust their picture to taste, but how your display is setup can have a huge effect on your picture and how the sim looks. I would start there and at least double check your settings before just diving into Reshade. 

I have a display calibrated with my X-Rite i1Display Pro and the game still looks meh. No amount of calibration is ever going to correct the 'one size fits all' approach to how games look, that is meant to look decent on everything from calibrated monitors to the awful out-of-box messes. There's always plenty of room to dial in every single game. 

Also, I suspect you haven't had much experience with ReShade if you think its filters only include some basic colour and brightness corrections. 

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8 minutes ago, Sethos said:

I have a display calibrated with my X-Rite i1Display Pro and the game still looks meh. No amount of calibration is ever going to correct the 'one size fits all' approach to how games look, that is meant to look decent on everything from calibrated monitors to the awful out-of-box messes. There's always plenty of room to dial in every single game. 

Also, I suspect you haven't had much experience with ReShade if you think its filters only include some basic colour and brightness corrections. 

You’re right. I have no experience. But I have seen people here and in other threads talking about tint and color temperature which are the basics of display settings. I completely agree that some sharpening techniques might warrant a Reshade, and then I guess you might as well go full into the rabbit hole. I would just caution that what looks good and what’s realistic are not always the same.
 

And not you in particular, but anyone considering Reshade, at least consider how your display is setup before jumping in making all kinds of picture corrections. 

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1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

MSFS definitely has a warm color temp....near the ground.  In to the teens and up it beings to become more natural.  Generally on my HDR monitor it looks pretty good by default.  That second screenshot above, on my monitor, looks almost purple or of a reddish hue.  Not natural.  However, if MBF is not running an HDR monitor it may look proper to him.

Those screenshots are in SDR on a hardware calibrated monitor.  They will certainly look different, or indeed wrong, if not viewed on a correctly calibrated monitor.

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13 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said:

I would just caution that what looks good and what’s realistic are not always the same.

It is important to start with a calibrated display, so you know you are starting from an accurate start point with accurate levels of blacks, greys, whites and colours. 

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18 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said:

But I have seen people here and in other threads talking about tint and color temperature which are the basics of display settings

The only way to make sure your monitor is displaying the correct colour temperature, black & white levels and colours is to use a hardware calibrator.  My monitor is calibrated monthly, so I know any Reshade Filters I use are not being used to correct incorrect settings with the monitor itself. 

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1 hour ago, Baber20 said:

I don't know if the op noticed but that 2nd screenshot has this reddish tint to it and looks worse IMO

Have you calibrated your display?

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1 hour ago, Baber20 said:

Reshade is a rabbit hole. Once you fall into it, you keep tinkering with the filters for the rest of your life. The faded colors and the washed out look is what you see from the cockpit.

Faded colours and washed out look is what you see from the cockpit as altitude increases, or lower down if visibility comes into play.  At ground level this is normally not the case.

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57 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said:

But how many folks here using Reshade have a professionally calibrated display? I suspect very few.

And even those that do have a calibrated display to a D65 white point will generally feel the picture is too warm and prefer a more neutral color temperature. In fact it’s possible that folks with properly calibrated displays are not happy with the picture and using Reshade to correct it.

Everyone can obviously adjust their picture to taste, but how your display is setup can have a huge effect on your picture and how the sim looks. I would start there and at least double check your settings before just diving into Reshade. 

MSFS is too warm.  I know this because my display is calibrated to D65, yet MSFS has various wrong tints, especially yellow and green.  You seem to argue against your own point - you state few people have calibrated displays, yet finish up by saying people should start by display setup for accuracy and then using ReShade which is exactly what I have done.  A couple of replies show the importance of starting with a calibrated display as they state my images have a reddish tint, which seems to suggest their display is not correctly calibrated.

 

 

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2 hours ago, miguel370 said:

Which reshade profile are you using to get the last airport picture effect?

Same as the first two, except the last one was taken late in the day (long shadows), so there is a slight reddish tint seen.

The filters I use are...

1. FinalLight 1.3
2. qUINT.Regrade.fx
3. LumaSharp.fx

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9 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

MSFS is too warm.  I know this because my display is calibrated to D65, yet MSFS has various wrong tints, especially yellow and green.  You seem to argue against your own point - you state few people have calibrated displays, yet finish up by saying people should start by display setup for accuracy and then using ReShade which is exactly what I have done.  A couple of replies show the importance of starting with a calibrated display as they state my images have a reddish tint, which seems to suggest their display is not correctly calibrated.

 

 

My posts are not aimed at anyone specific here, particularly you I guess. I’m just trying to share some general good advice…Before you jump into adjusting your picture with Reshade, revisit your display setup and ask yourself… is this setup proper/optimal.

As I said it’s actually fairly common for folks that have calibrated their display to D65 to find it too warm. If that’s the case, you could use a cooler color temp setting on your display, or use Reshade I guess. Whatever works. I’ve made my point. 🙂

Reshsde away!

39 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

MSFS is too warm.  I know this because my display is calibrated to D65, yet MSFS has various wrong tints, especially yellow and green.  You seem to argue against your own point - you state few people have calibrated displays, yet finish up by saying people should start by display setup for accuracy and then using ReShade which is exactly what I have done.  A couple of replies show the importance of starting with a calibrated display as they state my images have a reddish tint, which seems to suggest their display is not correctly calibrated.

 

 

My ASUS PG279Q is also calibrated using i1 Display hardware and X-RITE iProfiler and your 2nd image looks pink. I owned a commercial printing plant for over 20 years and made 1/2 a career out of color management (color calibration and control) for monitors, proofing, and press. Neutral balance is one of the most important functions of color management as the human eye is VERY sensitive to color cast/shift in neutral tones (whites, grays), and pink clouds, concrete and asphalt don't look natural to most eyes. A decidedly subtle shift of 1 delta e in neutrals is apparent to a normal viewer.

I have no bone to pick on the relative merits of reshade, but I have well developed experience regarding color accuracy that I made a living on.

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It's possible to use reshade with store version? 

17 minutes ago, abennett said:

It's possible to use reshade with store version? 

 

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40 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said:

As I said it’s actually fairly common for folks that have calibrated their display to D65 to find it too warm. If that’s the case, you could use a cooler color temp setting on your display, or use Reshade I guess. Whatever works. I’ve made my point.

If you use a cooler colour temp on your display, you have changed the colour temp for ALL games/simulators/software on your system!  Makes more sense to calibrate the display to a known good base and then correct an individual game if required.

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37 minutes ago, somiller said:

My ASUS PG279Q is also calibrated using i1 Display hardware and X-RITE iProfiler and your 2nd image looks pink.

Oh, that's interesting!  Outside of calibrating my monitor I don't have experience like yourself - I wonder why it looks pink on your display?  I calibrated to D65 so I am confused why there would be a difference.

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