September 16, 20223 yr Author On 9/14/2022 at 4:37 PM, Kilo989 said: Super duper! I would recommend at least one SPIFR aircraft, as a nice balance between the complexities of the multi-crew exquisites you have now on offer. Phenom 300E is a good example! And especially as the PC24 is already covered. 🤩😎 🧐
September 18, 20223 yr On 8/24/2022 at 3:50 AM, N400QW said: No, LM P3DV4/5😎 @N400QW Why not develop for MSFS? Are there any advantages to developing for P3Dv4/5 specifically? P3D v4x is EOL and v5 has been out for some time. Also, if pricing will be more or less the same as in prior versions, it seems to me it makes more sense for a business to develop a program that will be useful to more users (eg. a new generation in the consumer market vs aviation students in a niche market) for a longer period of time. Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space. Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).
September 19, 20223 yr Commercial Member 7 hours ago, bofhlusr said: Why not develop for MSFS? MSFS 2020 is not quite up to the level of capability that Prepar3D is. Because they want it to run on an XBox, it has a great deal of limitations. MSFS 2020 isn't quite as safe for commercial products with regards to IP theft. Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
September 19, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, WarpD said: MSFS 2020 is not quite up to the level of capability that Prepar3D is. Because they want it to run on an XBox, it has a great deal of limitations. MSFS 2020 isn't quite as safe for commercial products with regards to IP theft. Sorry, but why would developers such as PMDG, Milviz, Flysimware and others invest in developing and sell programs for MSFS? Edited September 19, 20223 yr by bofhlusr Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space. Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).
September 19, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, bofhlusr said: Sorry, but why would developers such as PMDG, Milviz, Flysimware and others invest in developing and sell programs for MSFS? Eh, ESDG is just out of touch and far behind. They're just now starting to develop for a 64-bit platform that came out five years ago, so it's not surprising they have outdated views of MSFS as well. Eaglesoft used to be great back in the day, and it's sad to watch their decline over these last few years.
September 19, 20223 yr OK folks, this is a P3D forum, and a topic on development of a P3D aircraft. If you want to debate ESDG's marketing and development decisions w/r/t MSFS, please go to Eaglesoft's forums and do it there. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
September 20, 20223 yr Author 19 hours ago, Bob Scott said: OK folks, this is a P3D forum, and a topic on development of a P3D aircraft. If you want to debate ESDG's marketing and development decisions w/r/t MSFS, please go to Eaglesoft's forums and do it there. Many thanks Bob, we appreciate the "re railing" of the topic.😎
September 21, 20223 yr @N400QW Beta testing is going well? I curious to see the Challenger thereafter 🙂
September 21, 20223 yr Author 6 hours ago, jomcci said: @N400QW Beta testing is going well? I curious to see the Challenger thereafter 🙂 XLS+ Beta Testing is proceeding well and CX750 and C605 will follow.
September 21, 20223 yr On 9/18/2022 at 10:38 PM, WarpD said: MSFS 2020 is not quite up to the level of capability that Prepar3D is. Because they want it to run on an XBox, it has a great deal of limitations. MSFS 2020 isn't quite as safe for commercial products with regards to IP theft. Can they not go the Fenix route and make a product for P.C. that runs processes externally outside of MSFS? You don't have to cater to the Marketplace or Xbox to sell a product for MSFS. I would think a product like this would do fairly well on both platforms of P3D and MSFS even without the Xbox crowd. Edited September 21, 20223 yr by jbdbow1970
September 21, 20223 yr Commercial Member 43 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said: Can they not go the Fenix route and make a product for P.C. that runs processes externally outside of MSFS? I will look into this approach and see what is/isn't possible. Best I can offer. Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
September 21, 20223 yr 57 minutes ago, WarpD said: I will look into this approach and see what is/isn't possible. Best I can offer. Literally thinking out of the box. Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space. Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).
September 21, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, jbdbow1970 said: Can they not go the Fenix route and make a product for P.C. that runs processes externally outside of MSFS? You don't have to cater to the Marketplace or Xbox to sell a product for MSFS. I would think a product like this would do fairly well on both platforms of P3D and MSFS even without the Xbox crowd. We are not considering some "roundabout approach" to MSFS such as you've outlined above. We may look into it at some point, but our plates are full for the near future.
November 22, 20223 yr Author Actually well with the exception of three bug categories that are slowing progress...🧐
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