2 minutes ago, Les Parson said:

I hate to ask this but where is panel.cfg in MSFS? 

goolge ain't helping.

In your community folder you should find it here: Community\milviz-aircraft-310\SimObjects\Airplanes\Milviz_310R\panel

Many thanks!

 

3 hours ago, taguilo said:

Hi,

Actually the JPL KPA140 does not work exactly like the real. For example, NAV mode operation for an aircraft with a DG (like in the C152) instead of an HSI (like in the C310) is not correct. It seems to be using MS default NAV mode. 

Milviz does have complete realistic versions of the KAP140 for both DG and HSI equipped aircraft. Their C310 for P3D includes one. I belive sooner or later they might decide to add those to their MS2020 aircraft.

 

Yes indeed.  Now hurry up and bring your p3d version to MSFS hehe!

5 hours ago, taguilo said:

Actually the JPL KPA140 does not work exactly like the real. For example, NAV mode operation for an aircraft with a DG (like in the C152) instead of an HSI (like in the C310) is not correct. It seems to be using MS default NAV mode. 

What are you saying here...?   All autopilots in the sim use MS NAV mode... and what is wrong with that?

2 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

What are you saying here...?   All autopilots in the sim use MS NAV mode... and what is wrong with that?

When flying DG, the KAP140 will - after pushing NAV - flash "HDG" for a few seconds. This is a reminder to both correct DG to magnetic compass but furthermore align DG bug to OBS course. These are separate gauges and I guess can easily be omitted by a pilot to check, thus a "warning" to the pilot to verify  conditions.

On a HSI this "HDG" warning is not present (at least I have never seen it IRL)

Edited September 3, 20223 yr by SAS443

BUMMER... Just tried the JPL KAP140 in the Milviz (thanks again for the tip, Bert!) and YES, the ARM mode works and BARO too so you can easily preset the desired alt and arm it later on... BUT... the C310 STILL nosedives VERY HARD as soon as you enable the AP... So this clearly is a problem with the C301, even with SP1. It simply will NOT keep the current VS. Really bad.

The C152 doesn't have this problem at ALL. Just gave it another try: in the C152 I set the desired alt on the ground, took off, enabled the AP during climb and it kept the current VS after which I could press ARM. Works like a charm.

I am back to the C152 for now (for my in between flights) ... totally different plane but at least the KAP140 works and the C152 has TWO VOR gauges plus DME for both NAVs at the same time... I just don't like how this is all implemented by Milviz. Odd to see a freeware mod for a default plane does it better than a payware addon. And btw I like the view out of the C152 more for the kind of flights I do: those huge engines on the C310 are blocking the view all the time. And you can turn of devices you don't use, unlike the C310... (Yes, I am just looking for excuses to not be disappointed with this LOL)

 

Edited September 3, 20223 yr by tup61

8 hours ago, tup61 said:

BUMMER... Just tried the JPL KAP140 in the Milviz (thanks again for the tip, Bert!) and...

 

The moment I engage HDG the AP master turns on.. I don't recall the real one working like that.  I believe it is a long press and hold the AP master then press HDG to engage ROL mode and again for HDG.  So you recall if that's correct?  It seems like default behavior - on the G3X and g1000 (non nxi) if you pressed a lateral mode the AP master would suddenly turn on!

15 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

The moment I engage HDG the AP master turns on.. I don't recall the real one working like that.  I believe it is a long press and hold the AP master then press HDG to engage ROL mode and again for HDG.  So you recall if that's correct?  It seems like default behavior - on the G3X and g1000 (non nxi) if you pressed a lateral mode the AP master would suddenly turn on!

Time to read the rw pilots guide..

Just now, Bert Pieke said:

Time to read the rw pilots guide..

Don't have time today - any hints?  I'm just doubting that suddenly pressing HDG would engage vertical and lateral modes.

 

12 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Don't have time today - any hints?  I'm just doubting that suddenly pressing HDG would engage vertical and lateral modes.

 

On older models (prior to software version 03/01) pressing HDG does enable the AP. You can of course also start the AP by pressing the AP button after which you will be in ROL and VS mode. The 'press and hold AP' (for 0.25 seconds) is from the newer models. Seems they simulated the older model? It would suit the C152 of course. 

37 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I believe it is a long press and hold the AP master then press HDG to engage ROL mode and again for HDG.

Afaik that's not correct with any version. Even with the newer long press AP version you would automatically be in ROL mode. Pressing HDG will give you HDG mode. You can use the button to toggle between them. But you ALWAYS start in ROL mode. 

Edited September 3, 20223 yr by tup61

46 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Don't have time today - any hints?  I'm just doubting that suddenly pressing HDG would engage vertical and lateral modes.

 

4. HEADING (HDG) MODE SELECTOR
BUTTON - When pushed, will
arm the Heading mode, which commands
the airplane to turn to and
maintain the heading selected by the
heading bug on either the DG or
HSI. A new heading may be
selected at any time and will result in
the airplane turning to the new heading.
Button can also be used to toggle
between HDG and ROL modes.
This button will engage the autopilot
in units with software prior to software
version 03/01.

@tup61Apologies.. I see you answered above.. 😉

Edited September 3, 20223 yr by Bert Pieke

1 hour ago, Bert Pieke said:

@tup61Apologies.. I see you answered above.. 😉

No problem, of course! Better post some things twice than not at all! 😉

In case someone wants to know more about the KAP140: check out the official manual! But be aware not everything might work as it should... 😉 I already noticed even the great JPL KAP140 isn't perfect. But it's the best version so far in MSFS, that's for sure.

Edited September 3, 20223 yr by tup61

Thanks boys!

Decided to get the C 310 out of he hangar and take it for a flight after reading this thread. I can't remember, does it do an RNAV approach and track glideslope, or is vertical descent  set manually?