September 15, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, David Mills said: No. I captured that scene in the XP12 demo. I'll attach another below. There are of course bad-looking areas of scenery in MSFS. But here's the difference: Bad-looking scenery is the rule, rather than the exception, in XP12. Bad-looking scenery is the exception, rather than the rule, in MSFS. It's almost like MSFS and XP emphasise different aspects of simulation
September 15, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, David Mills said: No. I captured that scene in the XP12 demo. I'll attach another below. There are of course bad-looking areas of scenery in MSFS. But here's the difference: Bad-looking scenery is the rule, rather than the exception, in XP12. Bad-looking scenery is the exception, rather than the rule, in MSFS. I am sure there will be comments on the other forum that will claim that the roads in this scenery are supposed to look like that....LOL
September 15, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Matchstick said: It's almost like MSFS and XP emphasise different aspects of simulation Yes, like Tiger Woods and I emphasize different aspects of golf. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
September 15, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Matchstick said: Not yet. I *think* America is coming next but don't quote me on that. For NZ and a chunk of E Coast of Canada I'm using pure Ortho without overlay. But most of my flying is in Europe as that's where most of my planes are in FSE. When I was flying in P3D, I was restricted to flying in the US, some places in Europe and that was about it. What separates MSFS from yesterday's flight sims, is now I can fly all over the world, and it looks pretty card good. Just this morning I have done three flights in New Zealand in the Kodiak, and the scenery and default airports looked fine.
September 15, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, David Mills said: Yes, like Tiger Woods and I emphasize different aspects of golf. Ok now you're into talking word not allowed Bye Edited September 15, 20223 yr by Matchstick
September 15, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: When I was flying in P3D, I was restricted to flying in the US, some places in Europe and that was about it. What separates MSFS from yesterday's flight sims, is now I can fly all over the world, and it looks pretty card good. Just this morning I have done three flights in New Zealand in the Kodiak, and the scenery and default airports looked fine. I had most of the world set up pretty well in XP11 but I'm waiting for several products to either be updated for XP12 or for alternatives. The thing is MSFS and XP offer different, complementary experiences. To fly in areas where I have it set up I might choose the better systems and flight modelling and wider range of planes of XP. For areas where I don't have good coverage or for flights where pure visuals matter I can choose MSFS.
September 15, 20223 yr Back on topic: Is the PMDG 737-700 available on XBox yet? If sales have been so robust with the PC version, I'm sure they'll skyrocket even further when their 737 is available on XBox (if it's not already). Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
September 15, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, David Mills said: Back on topic: Is the PMDG 737-700 available on XBox yet? If sales have been so robust with the PC version, I'm sure they'll skyrocket even further when their 737 is available on XBox (if it's not already). It's not yet on the marketplace at all. They want all the cash for themselves 😄 Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
September 15, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, rka said: It's not yet on the marketplace at all. They want all the cash for themselves 😄 I wonder if the somewhat disastrous experience with the DC-6 XBox version on the Marketplace has made them cautious about putting new stuff on there.
September 15, 20223 yr Just now, Matchstick said: I wonder if the somewhat disastrous experience with the DC-6 XBox version on the Marketplace has made them cautious about putting new stuff on there. Yeah, probably. My guess is that they are still satisfied enough with the sales in their own store they don't feel pressured to go marketplace. But I'm fairly certain they're looking forward to it. Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
September 15, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, rka said: Yeah, probably. My guess is that they are still satisfied enough with the sales in their own store they don't feel pressured to go marketplace. But I'm fairly certain they're looking forward to it. If the upcoming WASM changes/fixes will allow them to create a proper XBox version of a 737 I imagine they would LOVE to release that, but I'm guessing they need to be word not allowed sure it would work properly
September 15, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, David Mills said: Yes, like Tiger Woods and I emphasize different aspects of golf. 😆👏
September 16, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Matchstick said: I had most of the world set up pretty well in XP11 I did that in P3D what an ordeal to download, install, configure and update. I had lots of ORBX FTX regionals (not that I could use them except at night when I could turn autogen down to Sparse, and I had a good machine for its time), airports, planes, etc. It was good for its time but compared to one-button install MSFS (OK, then copy your Community Folder backup in and you're good to go) it's a royal pain--but we know that many who dabble in this hobby enjoy the tinkering...at least for a while 🙃 Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 16, 20223 yr 17 hours ago, David Mills said: No. I captured that scene in the XP12 demo. I'll attach another below. There are of course bad-looking areas of scenery in MSFS. But here's the difference: Bad-looking scenery is the rule, rather than the exception, in XP12. Bad-looking scenery is the exception, rather than the rule, in MSFS. OMG. That is terrible. I though you were fooling around with that picture. There is no way I could use a simulator that looks like that. Looks like the latest and greatest... from 1992. I never tried XP. Got bit years ago trying Sierra Pro Pilot. Every time I think about trying XP, my experience with Pro Pilot comes to mind. I'd be highly upset if I had bought XP12 and seen that when it launched. Definitely a non starter for me. It could leak real jet fuel on my carpet, and it still wouldn't be realistic enough looking like that. I'll stick with the serious simulator. i9-10850K, ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI), 32GB G.SKILL DDR4-3603 / PC4-28800, GIGABYTE RTX5080 16GB WF OC 3 FAN running 3440x1440
September 16, 20223 yr 18 hours ago, Matchstick said: I had most of the world set up pretty well in XP11 but I'm waiting for several products to either be updated for XP12 or for alternatives. The thing is MSFS and XP offer different, complementary experiences. To fly in areas where I have it set up I might choose the better systems and flight modelling and wider range of planes of XP. For areas where I don't have good coverage or for flights where pure visuals matter I can choose MSFS. Better flight modeling of XP 11, oh please, not again with the word not allowed.
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