AI Traffic Improvement SU11

[Alvega 2,126]

11 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Still get quite a few generics though. Apparently it can be solved although I haven't tried it (yet):

 

Yes, setting generic models to off doesn't work, unfortunately. Only the method recommended by Corsten worked for me.

[aniiran 434]

has the spinning finally stopped?

[Alvega 2,126]

54 minutes ago, aniiran said:

has the spinning finally stopped?

Didn't see any yet.

[Tuskin38 6,645]

8 hours ago, aniiran said:

has the spinning finally stopped?

No, but they’re spinning so slow now you won’t really notice unless you take the camera right up to the wheels 

 

Edited October 17, 2022 by Tuskin38

[cj-ibbotson 81]

I am still getting no outbound traffic on SU11 beta and Fsltl. Injector may say xx aircraft is pushing back for xx runway but nothing happens. Planes arrive but nothing leaves even at Egll when real world flights and coming and going. Might reinstall the app later when home

[Shack95 2,665]

32 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

No, but they’re spinning so slow now you won’t really notice unless you take the camera right up to the wheels 

Good that they are working on it. This certainly looks much better. I still wonder why they didn‘t make it stop completely.

[Tony P 160]

I'm not in the beta - but am following this and have a question.  Why would FSLTL even be needed anymore if they have fixed the AI landing and departing ?

[adino 263]

1 hour ago, Tony P said:

I'm not in the beta - but am following this and have a question.  Why would FSLTL even be needed anymore if they have fixed the AI landing and departing ?

I would say even when Asobo got AI fixed you will still need the correct models from AIG and FSLTL for AI model matching...

[aniiran 434]

1 hour ago, Shack95 said:

Good that they are working on it. This certainly looks much better. I still wonder why they didn‘t make it stop completely.

Agreed, it looks better,  this is a strange problem.  I wish someone could explain why they have to spin. Thanks Tuskin38

[F737MAX 5,738]

5 minutes ago, aniiran said:

Agreed, it looks better,  this is a strange problem.  I wish someone could explain why they have to spin.

Because the Earth is rotating. If the aircraft didn't spin, they wouldn't be able to stay in the same place... 👍😁
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[bobcat999 8,509]

2 hours ago, F737MAX said:

Because the Earth is rotating. If the aircraft didn't spin, they wouldn't be able to stay in the same place... 👍😁
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Strangely enough, you are not too far from the truth.  What you are looking at my friend is the Coriolis effect, which affects the aircraft in this way because the ground friction is out of whack at the moment.
Every aircraft with a magnetic compass in will be affected by this - i.e., all of them!  "You cannot beat the laws of physics" {Montgomery Scott - Engineer}

This occurs in sim because one of the changes between FSX and MSFS is that MSFS uses a proper globe physics with realistic curvature.  Flight-Simmers who are also Flat-Earthers won't buy MSFS for this very reason!    

PS. Asobo are looking at applying an anti-Coriolis correction factor to their formulas (based on latitude) to prevent this on moving aircraft as well, as there is no static friction to adjust when rolling, and rolling friction is affected by centrifugal forces anyway.
You may have seen that some aircraft in the northern hemisphere pull to the left on take off, while those in the southern hemisphere pull to the right - that's the Coriolis Effect ( and also caused a bit by being upside down when they are down there in Australia etc.)

What a simulator, eh?  Asobo simulate all this physics and nobody takes notice!   And some people think they only do Computational Fluid Dynamics - Ha!

[Noncon 19]

2 hours ago, aniiran said:

Agreed, it looks better,  this is a strange problem.  I wish someone could explain why they have to spin. Thanks Tuskin38

My guess is, it has to do with the stuck aircraft logic, which starts a timer to remove non-moving (stuck) AI from the sim.

[ha5mvo 261]

51 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

What a simulator, eh?  Asobo simulate all this physics and nobody takes notice!   And some people think they only do Computational Fluid Dynamics - Ha!

Strangely enough, this is also their undoing. Because this card structure is so elaborate, it doesn't take much for things to go wrong and when they do - its so very hard to fix or adjust simply because of the multitude of parameters, variables and computations going on. On top of that, many of them are sandboxed and can't be adjusted or tinkered with...

 

[KL Oo 706]

8 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

No, but they’re spinning so slow now you won’t really notice unless you take the camera right up to the wheels 

 

Thanks @Tuskin38 - appreciate you looking into this. Not sure why, but I actually feel a little deceived by Asobo on this - Turns out they didn't really fix the rotating/spinning aircraft  they just reduced it significantly :)

 

Either way, I guess at least they're doing SOMETHING for the AI - We've got to keep the pressure on them. Its encouraging to see so many people voting for AI related topics on the MSFS Forums.

 

[RobJC 2,073]

On 10/16/2022 at 10:22 AM, Piotr007 said:

How about the performance degradation? I still observe after 2 hrs or so certain performance degradation presumably caused by AI.

It still does it.