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It's been a while since I wandered into the P3D forums. Still, it sure feels like a good conversation can't be had without the topic changing into how people in the other sim are doing XYZ to get XYZ, or that sim is just eye candy, while this one is the true sim of advanced avionics and aircraft...

Can't we be grateful we have so many options to choose from?

I've been so grateful to P3D for getting me through the last seven years, but honestly, I haven't flown it for nearly a year now, and I still have it installed. But the constant tinkering to get it "right' was getting old. 

Hopefully, LM can update it for its core demographic base. 

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One of the things that was always missing I thought - from FSX/p3d, was a decent VFR map, one that showed things on it - like the maps on skyvector.com, with a decent amount of detail, and large enough on screen for you to interact with it well.

The present one just doesn't cut it really, it dates right from the beginning of fsx, even fs2004 I think.

Have to use Little Navmap to fill that void.😦

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1 hour ago, tamba765 said:

I can't wait to spend another $200 on a new version of P3D.😡

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3 hours ago, davenicoll said:

I hope all of my add ons work out of the box so to speak as I cannot see developers scrambling to make their products v6 compatible...there just isn't the market anymore.

That's exactly what the problem will be !
Unfortunately, there will probably be no more updates from most developers....

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1 hour ago, ggerolamo said:

That's exactly what the problem will be !
Unfortunately, there will probably be no more updates from most developers....

I think that when "developers" see the NEW version 6, they will want to be part of this particular sim!  That' my opinion!

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11 hours ago, spilok said:

I think that when "developers" see the NEW version 6, they will want to be part of this particular sim!  That' my opinion!

Only if it will make them enough money to be worth spending the time on development.

Once upon a time, developers serving P3D would have clear expectations about the number of copies they could expect to sell, and decided if a particular product was worth the investment on that basis. Now, they have access to a platform where potentially (and I use that word advisedly), for roughly the same amount of work, they can sell orders of magnitude more copies, even if usually for a lower price. Which do you think they will pick? In an ideal world they would do both but in the real world people and time are expensive and there's little to no downside in terms of revenue or reputation in abandoning P3D, especially if they don't hang out in forums like this one to hear the complaints of the users they abandoned.

The developers are never coming back unless the mass market comes to P3D or the other sim closes down. That's (sadly) my opinion.

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I had a chat with a developer and they said compiling code for a switch for a P3D aircraft took far longer than it did for a MSFS aircraft. When you take into account the number of compiles that is a far longer development time. Time = money.

Then earlier this year Gary Summons of UK2000 said he was giving up P3D because of the same reason. The tools now available for MSFS made it much easier for him to create better looking airports with less effort.

I’m not saying all P3D developers have the same problem. I’m sure there are different tools for scenery and aircraft development that might make the job easier.

It does seem to me that apart from the financial benefits of developing for MSFS the rather old base engine of ESP is not helping them. I can’t see how that could change without a major rewrite and that probably breaches the agreement with Microsoft even if LM had the appetite to do it which I doubt.

I doubt we’ll see anything revolutionary in a v6.

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Just now, Juliet Alpha said:

Then why v6 and not 5.4?

I don’t make the rules and it’s just my opinion, not a statement of fact.

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On 10/21/2022 at 9:37 PM, spearmint_flyer said:

I've been so grateful to P3D for getting me through the last seven years, but honestly, I haven't flown it for nearly a year now, and I still have it installed. But the constant tinkering to get it "right' was getting old

Describes me to a tee also!

-B

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