1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Anyone want a 4090 check the seller/swap/trade section in the avsim forums. 

You lost faith in the 4090 ?

17 minutes ago, altenae said:

You lost faith in the 4090 ?

He has a spare.

20 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said:

He has a spare.

He got two just in case 😉

DLSS 3 > External Video Processor FI > TV with FI

10 FPS = 80 FPS, I can finally fly in Singapore with full custom PR in the 787 using Dual monitors with dual camera view, only problem is I cannot land the thing... (edit, oops meant 80, FI'n FI'd frames)

 

Edited October 24, 20223 yr by Alpine Scenery

8 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said:

only problem is I cannot land the thing...

...as your controls are in the realm of 10fps? But on your TV you're seeing 80fps? 

5 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

...as your controls are in the realm of 10fps? But on your TV you're seeing 80fps? 

Sorry, it was sarcasm. Though nothing against the 4090, waiting for the AMD 7900xt. 
Hoping I can sell my 3080 and upgrade to a 7900xt for less than $300.

AMD's memory on their GPU's perform better at a lower clock I believe, and the 7900xt is supposed to have a 15% bump, which in theory is like an Nvidia getting a 25% bump. We will see, but it's very possible the 7900xt is going to be faster than the 4090 in MSFS (discounting the DLSS).

 

Edited October 24, 20223 yr by Alpine Scenery

2 hours ago, threegreen said:

Maybe I missed it but I still haven't seen a benchmark showing the 4090 does actually transform a 25-30 FPS stuttery approach into a large airport with AI, clouds, Fenix A320 and ultra settings into a 50-60 FPS, smooth flight where you can forget about performance. The one more elaborate test I've seen was that of @TravelRunner404 here on AVSIM that didn't go so well (heavy artifacts).

Yeah I didn’t have a good experience with it and wasn’t impressed in KLAX iniscene with even 35 FPS. There were a lot of stutters and you have to have a G-Sync monitor as far as I could tell. V-Sync was a mess on my OLED but on my work monitor G-Sync 120hz, it was better, but the AI frames flicker, and are quite annoying. At higher FPS if you just spin around the cockpit aside from the airframe flickering badly, it was overall something you could probably get used to. In the end it was still smoother to just make myself GPU limited and get on with it.
 

Again, no one testing seems to use capfeameX and show the Variances graph which is the proof that things are smoother. 

Edited October 24, 20223 yr by TravelRunner404

16 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said:

Sorry, it was sarcasm.

Oh 🙂 I didn't have my sarcasm detector on. 

17 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said:

We will see, but it's very possible the 7900xt is going to be faster than the 4090 in MSFS (discounting the DLSS).

It'll be interesting to see for sure. When is it expected to launch?

The rumor is the release date is about a week or two before Black Friday, either Nov 14th or Nov 21st, but I believe that is just the rumor. On Nov 3rd, I believe AMD is going to give a solid release date in their unveling.

The problem will be the supply, I expect I won't be able to get one (not for a reasonable price) until next March of 2023, but I'm hoping I'm wrong. So I'll be using the 3080 for a while. Another rumor is that a third-party has a version that runs well over the boost clock of 2700, but that might be a fake rumor, or it might be released as the AMD 7950xt. If this were true, the FPS could be way beyond anything we've ever seen. We do know the GPU can run up to 2700 in the default config as the boost clock. 

Consider that the default "MFR reference config" of the 6900xt was 2015Mhz boosted to 2250, and now the default reference config is 2500 and boost goes to 2700+ on the 7900xt and the memory clock was also boosted by at least 15% to 20% and upgraded to 24GB, we may see some impressive numbers.

The 6900xt was about the same as the 3080 TI in MSFS, the 6950xt was about the same as the 3090. The 3090 TI was probably slightly faster, but the 7900xt might be faster than all of them by a lot.
 

Edited October 24, 20223 yr by Alpine Scenery

 

It's better to have something than not have it, even if you do not use it. I'd rather have more raw power though, and for less money, and that's what I'm hoping AMD brings to the table next month.

The current Great FPS Chase reminds me of the Great Horsepower Chase of the 50s and 60s, when car owners (mostly guys) wanted to have the most powerful engine they could get. Though most of that horsepower was useless except on race tracks, it was the idea of biggest-and-best that dominated. Lots of parallels here. 

20 minutes ago, cobalt said:

The current Great FPS Chase reminds me of the Great Horsepower Chase of the 50s and 60s, when car owners (mostly guys) wanted to have the most powerful engine they could get. Though most of that horsepower was useless except on race tracks, it was the idea of biggest-and-best that dominated. Lots of parallels here. 

I get what you are saying, but it isnt really the same is it? Weve had to put up with 30 FPS in sims for DECADES, and now eventually we are breaking away from that, and some people can't handle it. It is more like the late 1800's and early 1900's when old horse guys couldnt handle new motor vehicles! 

23 minutes ago, cobalt said:

The current Great FPS Chase reminds me of the Great Horsepower Chase of the 50s and 60s, when car owners (mostly guys) wanted to have the most powerful engine they could get. Though most of that horsepower was useless except on race tracks, it was the idea of biggest-and-best that dominated. Lots of parallels here. 

Not like it's a new phenomenom that simmers have been chasing fps though. And upgrading their hardware to achieve that. As for myself I've been doing that since I got into flight simming more than 20 years ago...

The discussion with regards to the 4090 seems different though. Can't recall that it was like this when I went from 1080Ti to 3090. Exorbitant prices, nVidia marketing, other reasons?

The reactions over at the official forums are much stronger than here on avsim though. Today I decided to pm someone asking for advice rather than post publicly, as I'm getting a bit tired with the negative reactions. 

Edited October 25, 20223 yr by Cpt_Piett

7 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

some people can't handle it.

More like can't see it. Again, 2000$ to double 70 FPS to end up at 140 FPS to make virtually no difference is just not worth it. If it does actually turn a 25 FPS stufferfest into a 50 FPS scenario with no artifacts and graphical glitches I'm all for it. Which is exactly why I can't decide if I want to bite or not.