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MSFS : 12900K vs 13900K both using a 4090

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Hello, i have a 13900k, with Z690 -P DDR4 3000Mhz MotherBoard, if you want it's possible make a test for you.
I have a RTX3080 (526.47)

Fresh install on WIN11 22h2 no WU in FS2020

LIRF- DLSS Quality - TLOD200 - OLOD 200 

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I think we should be able to put together some benchmarks. Will be rough estimates though as we cannot adjust for the different hardware configurations the way the tech youtubers can.

I have some time this weekend. I think using flight replay is a great idea. I'm a bit rusty on the airliners though as it has been a few months (amazing how quick knowledge "disappears"). I managed to start the 737-700 yesterday but I don't feel confident to do a flight yet until I practice a bit. The A320 I can handle pretty well though. 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

48 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I managed to start the 737-700

you can always start at a runway location instead of a gate position, very un-hardcore-unserious, with engines running and let the copilot do the cooking & cleaning 😊

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

7 minutes ago, turbomax said:

you can always start at a runway location instead of a gate position, very un-hardcore-unserious, with engines running 😊

Hey! I'm a hard-core simmer™ 😅 But you're right though. Would be good though to get at least one approach into one of the major hubs like KLAX. 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

26 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I'm a hard-core simmer™

yess sssirr!

very well, it was just that I thought maybe Master Captain might have wanted to spend more time testing those latencies and so forth.

 

BTW: today NVidia released another driver bugfix:

GeForce Hotfix display driver version 526.61 is based on our latest Game Ready Driver 526.47.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/503750/announcing-geforce-hotfix-driver-52661-released-11/

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

27 minutes ago, turbomax said:

yess sssirr!

very well, it was just that I thought maybe Master Captain might have wanted to spend more time testing those latencies and so forth.

Ah yes. Frame times are very important to me. Latency not so much. 

Trying to get re-acquainted with the 737 now and I keep swearing at the FMC. It's super-awkward configuring the aircraft settings without an EFB. Sigh. I've been spoiled with the FBW and the Fenix. 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

It's super-awkward configuring the aircraft settings without an EFB

excuse me to disturb Master once more but shouldn't be too importatnt for benchmark videos?

btw: AMD RDNA3 supports up to 480 Hz @ 4K via DisplayPort 2.1, no new power connector required, only 350 watts, @ 8K it's only a measly 160 Hz 😀. take that! 

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

5 minutes ago, turbomax said:

excuse me to disturb Master once more but shouldn't be too importatnt for benchmark videos?

btw: AMD RDNA3 supports up to 480 Hz @ 4K via DisplayPort 2.1, take that!

No that's fine, no worries 🙂 I know, captain can be a bit OCD at times. And referring to himself in 3rd person is never a good sign 🙂 But believe it or not - he managed to get the bird down relatively safely (it wasn't pretty though) at KLAS rwy 26L. 

Pardon? I thought you said 480Hz@4K. My lord. But what about the latency??

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

I am not sure I can comment any further, the forum-hijacker-police is watching, but you could still sell your 4090 before they become available in 4 weeks 😀, and they will have FSR3, will have to see how that compares to DLSS3. this will be another exciting weeks of benchmarking and good to finally have a strong competitor to NVidia.

$ 899 and $ 999 in another 4 weeks. about half the price of the 4090 !!!

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https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/3/23438373/amd-rdna-3-gpu-event-live-stream-time-how-to-watch

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

6 minutes ago, turbomax said:

I am not sure I can comment any further, the forum-hijacker-police is watching, but you could still sell your 4090 before they announce the RDNA 3 price, now that they will have FSR3. will be another exciting weeks of benchmarking and good to finally have a strong competitor to NVidia.

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And the good news..... 999 US Dollars....

MSI Tomahawk Z790, I7-13700K, DDR5 6000mhz, MSI 4090, 3x SSD 980 PRO, Corsair 360 Liguid CPU cooler, Corsair H1200V2 power.

8 minutes ago, turbomax said:

I am not sure I can comment any further, the forum-hijacker-police is watching, but you could still sell your 4090 before they announce the RDNA 3 price, now that they will have FSR3. will be another exciting weeks of benchmarking and good to finally have a strong competitor to NVidia.

Competition is great. Hopefully it'll force nVidia to reduce the exorbitant prices eventually. No way I'm going to sell my 4090 though 🙂 I was however able to sell my 3090 today. Please don't ask me about the price - it still hurts. 

On topic, I'm getting very good performance in the 737 (with my 12900 I should add). It's very easy on the frames - the Black Square King Air seems to be a tad heavier, for comparison.

Just did an approach to FT's KLAS with fairly high FSLTL settings. I was supposed to do a CapFrameX benchmark of the whole flight but forgot to press the capture button... too busy handling the aircraft.  

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7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

21 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Please don't ask me about the price - it still hurts. 

if you got more than this on Ebay you are lucky

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

And yet here in Canada people are still paying over 1k for 3090 ex mining cards. Some people are really stupid.

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

if you got more than this on Ebay you are lucky

I did. I’m selling it with double EK waterblocks which probably adds a bit to the value.

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

12 hours ago, peloto said:

Disabling the e-cores, the cache goes to p-cores, I read some test some time ago, not remember a FS20 test, and the results were almost the same with e-cores on or all off. Though If in FS20 differently to other games, likes so much cache memories, you could try to disable e-cores and test, and maybe create a setting in BIOS only for FS20.

With a 12900k I didn´t notice-feel it any better.

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