MSFS : 12900K vs 13900K both using a 4090

[turbomax 3,300]

24 minutes ago, RTK1972 said:

5400 Euro including case etc.

for a few 4.600 $$ more you can get a real airplane, not sure how realistic the flight model is though, compared to MSFS:

 

[Alpine Scenery 1,609]

If people are going to do their own benchmarks, I might suggest loading the game in the simplest plane. Switch to camera mode, wait a minute or so and don't do anything, now move the camera with the arrow keys for 30 seconds, then take the FPS reading.  Repeat a few times to make sure the results are repeatable. You can do it with a flight, but it won't be as accurate because the angle is constantly changing in the viewport. You could try slew mode instead as well, though that is travelling fast so it might distort the results.

 

Edited November 2, 2022 by Alpine Scenery

[turbomax 3,300]

4 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said:

If people are going to do their own benchmarks, I might suggest loading the game in the simplest plane

how about a video-replay file that everybody can import, and before that, adjust the relevant settings in MSFS to be the same for everybody.

[Alpine Scenery 1,609]

Just now, turbomax said:

how about a video-replay file that everybody can import, and before that, adjust the relevant settings in MSFS to be the same for everybody.

That might work.

[TravelRunner404 596]

6 minutes ago, turbomax said:

how about a video-replay file that everybody can import, and before that, adjust the relevant settings in MSFS to be the same for everybody

That certainly would be the easiest, if it puts the same stress on the system. I am not familiar with replay.

[turbomax 3,300]

 

22 minutes ago, TravelRunner404 said:

I am not familiar with replay.

https://flightsim.to/file/9067/sky-dolly

https://flightsim.to/file/8163/flight-recorder

 

Edited November 2, 2022 by turbomax

[Cpt_Piett 4,811]

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

how about a video-replay file that everybody can import, and before that, adjust the relevant settings in MSFS to be the same for everybody.

That's a very good idea. I've used flight recorder a fair bit in the past, it's a nice and easy tool. 

Edited November 2, 2022 by Cpt_Piett

[Cpt_Piett 4,811]

3 hours ago, RTK1972 said:

Only thing i wonder is that the sim is crashing seconds after starting MSFS in DX12...... Any ideas on this ? DX11 runs without probs. Latest driver installed

This is probably a bit far-reaching. Just sharing it as there's a 0.1% chance it might help. I struggled today troubleshooting CTDs upon MSFS loading (didn't even reach the Xbox logo). The issue was that I changed MSFS core affinities in Lasso before starting the sim. It has caused CTDs for me before but it took a while until I remembered that. It's possible to change affinities with Lasso after starting the sim choosing the "current" not the "always" setting. 

[G-RFRY 1,720]

Over 20 years of flight sim and still chasing FRAPS nothing changes, Flight Sims hardware manufactures best friend.

[Lange_666 167]

50 minutes ago, G-RFRY said:

Over 20 years of flight sim and still chasing FRAPS nothing changes, Flight Sims hardware manufactures best friend.

You can always go back to the beginning, i'll bet you get a 1000 FPS...
 

 

[Alpine Scenery 1,609]

I think the landing effects in FS 2002 were superior to the current version of MSFS 🙂

As I recall, I had FS 4.0, 2002, FS 2004, FSX, Xplane, P3D, and now MSFS.
Yet, I'm still not that great of a pilot, probably because I don't take it seriously enough.
 

Edited November 2, 2022 by Alpine Scenery

[Mace 1,951]

19 minutes ago, Lange_666 said:

You can always go back to the beginning, i'll bet you get a 1000 FPS...
 

What are they running FS2 on?  An 8086 cpu?  Even my old Apple //e got better frame rates than what's depicted in that vid.

 

[turbomax 3,300]

19 minutes ago, Mace said:

What are they running FS2 on?  An 8086 cpu?

probably an 6502.

"Even my old Apple //e got better frame rates than what's depicted in that vid."

yes but ... that demo video from 1982 was with Ultra settings, LOD 200 and scenery complexity: maximum.

 

[RTK1972 288]

6 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

This is probably a bit far-reaching. Just sharing it as there's a 0.1% chance it might help. I struggled today troubleshooting CTDs upon MSFS loading (didn't even reach the Xbox logo). The issue was that I changed MSFS core affinities in Lasso before starting the sim. It has caused CTDs for me before but it took a while until I remembered that. It's possible to change affinities with Lasso after starting the sim choosing the "current" not the "always" setting. 

hmm, i do not use Lasso... just thinking if i changed something in the Bios despite xmp and overclocking profile.... but it workes with those settings in DX11

This is th error message i get:

Name der fehlerhaften Anwendung: FlightSimulator.exe, Version: 1.29.25.0, Zeitstempel: 0x00000000
Name des fehlerhaften Moduls: WwiseLibPCx64P.dll, Version: 0.0.0.0, Zeitstempel: 0x60a67fd2
Ausnahmecode: 0xc0000005
Fehleroffset: 0x00000000002a4205
ID des fehlerhaften Prozesses: 0x0x78A4
Startzeit der fehlerhaften Anwendung: 0x0x1D8EF3558A38F1B
Pfad der fehlerhaften Anwendung: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.29.25.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator.exe
Pfad des fehlerhaften Moduls: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.29.25.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\WwiseLibPCx64P.dll
Berichtskennung: 6207c6e1-e443-4e16-a7ab-df12afda5d80
Vollständiger Name des fehlerhaften Pakets: Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.29.25.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
Anwendungs-ID, die relativ zum fehlerhaften Paket ist: App

Edited November 3, 2022 by RTK1972

[peloto 213]

Disabling the e-cores, the cache goes to p-cores, I read some test some time ago, not remember a FS20 test, and the results were almost the same with e-cores on or all off. Though If in FS20 differently to other games, likes so much cache memories, you could try to disable e-cores and test, and maybe create a setting in BIOS only for FS20.