CPU performance is like ping pong for Intel vs. AMD, but AMD is more honey for your money and less power for your tower.

 

im just upset with the lack of graphs and charts since rob left, and the fact I cant pay my electric bill let alone a new cpu and gfx card.

Odd! Neither one appears to produce higher ground speed in the sim.  400 knots in the Hjet is the same with all of them.....400 knots!
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Edited October 31, 20223 yr by fppilot

19 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Odd! Neither one appears to produce higher ground speed in the sim.  400 knots in the Hjet is the same with all of them.....400 knots!
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With the new DLSS you now have 2x framerate = 2x speed 

So 400 knots = 800 knots 

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On 10/30/2022 at 5:40 AM, TravelRunner404 said:

Tom’s hardware shows the 5800x3D to be about 25% faster than the 13900k. There is a giant thread at the msfs forums of people upgrading to it and sharing their impressive results. The 13900k is a fine processor for a high end computer but if you want MSFS performance it’s slower.   In the MSFS forums we were positing results that are 15-25 Frames better than 12900k at busy airports.

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-intel-core-i9-13900k-core-i5-13600k-review?page=2

On a contrary note, this benchmark on Eurogamer lets you compare multiple Intel and AMD CPU's in MSFS including a moving fps graph that is synced to a recorded flight. It shows the 13900k performing well ahead of the 5800x3d.

Even the I5 13600k out performs the 5800x3d it by a significant margin in their test.

Which benchmark should we believe?

I don't know if Eurogamer is a reliable benchmark site or not, but the real-time synced comparisons look reasonable when comparing other CPU's. It matters to me as I am planning a new build.

3 hours ago, turnandbank said:

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-intel-core-i9-13900k-core-i5-13600k-review?page=2

On a contrary note, this benchmark on Eurogamer lets you compare multiple Intel and AMD CPU's in MSFS including a moving fps graph that is synced to a recorded flight. It shows the 13900k performing well ahead of the 5800x3d.

Even the I5 13600k out performs the 5800x3d it by a significant margin in their test.

Which benchmark should we believe?

I don't know if Eurogamer is a reliable benchmark site or not, but the real-time synced comparisons look reasonable when comparing other CPU's. It matters to me as I am planning a new build.

Interesting! Thanks for posting this. It appears to be a very credible report to me with many of the parameters used in the tests spelled out and a view of performance at various phases of the test flight.

Be safe - go AMD and forget about overstressing your system.

sp

Edited October 31, 20223 yr by Sky_Pilot071

3 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Be safe - go AMD and forget about overstressing your system.

sp

Interesting how times change. 

For nearly 20 years Intel/Nvidia was the "safe" option and people that were edgy and wanted to live dangerously dipped into AMD territory with options that were cheaper and in the right circumstances gave great bang per buck but could just as easily explode in your face. Especially the drivers.

AMD now being seen as the "safer" option is quite a game changer.

Edited November 1, 20223 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

7 hours ago, turnandbank said:

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-intel-core-i9-13900k-core-i5-13600k-review?page=2

Even the I5 13600k out performs the 5800x3d it by a significant margin in their test.

My guess is that both benchmarks are probably wrong for most users systems, but on average the Intel one is slightly faster, but at a MUCH MUCH higher wattage. I have looked at a lot of different benchmarks between different games and the 13900k is slightly faster in almost everything, but not by much. 

The problem is because the Ryzen 5800x3D has extra cache, the benchmarking results are going to be all over the place depending on config and settings between two different PC's. Perhaps the 5800x3D is faster than the 13900k in MSFS in certain situations, but I think it's much closer than either of those benchmarks indicate.

The AMD is the MUCH better deal though, especially for people like me who currently own a 5800x.

Another person had noted that upgrading to the 5800x3D provided no real benefit unless at very busy airports, but I kind of doubt this as well. I have always assumed the 5800x3D is about 15% to 25% faster than the 5800x on average, and I just live by that assumption. That means 30fps = about 35fps on the 5800x3D, but this could be tilted to maybe 40fps depending on settings or bigger airports. I may be incorrect, but call it a gut instinctive intuition average in my mind.

Edited November 1, 20223 yr by Alpine Scenery

i5 13600K vs R7 5800X3D - RTX 4090 | 8 Games Test - YouTube

Yah, the results are almost the same between the two we posted, except in your example the even lesser Intel wins slightly. That said, I don't think there is enough difference to really matter much, as these FPS benchmarks are not accurate, especially across different systems (which has to be done due to different CPU test).

So in conclusion, they are going to be close IMO, but I'd rather have the AMD, less wattage means less expense over time, making the AMD cheaper.

 

Edited November 1, 20223 yr by Alpine Scenery

4 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Be safe - go AMD and forget about overstressing your system.

sp

Also the HJET is the best MSFS plane for a fun experience but that is probably just a me thing.

sp

 

4 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Be safe - go AMD and forget about overstressing your system.

sp

At one time AMD's FX57 was the fastest single-core in the world, and people went full-tilt to get as much speed as possible out of those.  It was a way to really stress your system if you wanted to.

Summary :

looking at the MSFS tests it seems that AMD is faster when running in 2K but with a resolution of 1440 or above Intel is running faster….

So everyone looking for a new cpu just choose where you feel best with. 

Myself I will upgrade my 12900k system to a 13900k system..

Just sold my 12900k. 
Will order the 13900k today.

The 13900kf is € 40 cheaper. What do you guys think ?

 

Edited November 1, 20223 yr by GSalden