November 3, 20223 yr So here is a list of the new aircraft coming in SU11, the 40th anniversary edition of MSFS: Quote Historical Aircraft: Wright Flyer Ryan NYP (“Spirit of St. Louis”) Douglas DC-3 De Havilland Canada DHC-2-Beaver Helicopters: Bell-407 Guimbal Cabri G2 Gliders: DG Flugzeugbau LG8-18 DG Flugzeugbau DG1001E neo True-to-Life Airliner: Airbus A310 Put together, what are all these aircraft worth? If the iniBuilds A310 is study level, I think the iniBuilds A310 is worth like $60 USD itself. I would have expected iniBuilds to price their A310 similar to the Fenix A320 and PMDG 737. $60 USD is practically the price of the Standard edition of MSFS. Personally, I may have purchased the Beaver if it didn't come free in SU11. I probably would have paid some $30 USD for the Beaver, because it's made by Milviz, and Milviz has made pretty good quality aircraft in MSFS already. What about the other aircraft coming in SU11? I don't know how to price the other aircraft, but if people can come up with a rough price of what the other aircraft are worth, I wouldn't mind figuring out what the total cost of all these aircraft are worth in SU11. Edited November 3, 20223 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
November 3, 20223 yr Probably in the region of 200USD ? BUT; let’s see what we actually get on the night. The Reno aircraft are beautiful but completely shallow… Edited November 3, 20223 yr by DD_Arthur
November 3, 20223 yr Is that all of them? I thought I heard it was 12 aircraft somewhere, and if things go as planned, there may still be some other surprises coming according to Jorg. Or basically he said, not everything has been announced, but he wanted to remain tight lipped. Anyway, here is my take, I normally use pounds Stirling (£) but I suppose we should standardise as the dollar is the global currency of aerospace. I am assuming the depth / detail level of them... Historical Aircraft: Wright Flyer - $9.99 Ryan NYP (“Spirit of St. Louis”) - $14.99 Douglas DC-3 - $24.99 De Havilland Canada DHC-2-Beaver - $22.99 Helicopters: Bell-407 - $17.99 Guimbal Cabri G2 - $14.99 Gliders: DG Flugzeugbau LG8-18 - $12.99 DG Flugzeugbau DG1001E neo - $12.99 True-to-Life Airliner: Airbus A310 - $49.95 Then I just remembered the Hughes Spruce Goose - $18.99 @DD_Arthur, our posts crossed, but nice to see you think about the same. My total is about $200 but I am sure I am missing a few more... Good value for free anyway . I think it is pointless trying to guess any deeper than this due to unknown depth levels of some of the aircraft. Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
November 3, 20223 yr DC-3, Bell 407, Beaver and A310 would be must buy for me! Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
November 3, 20223 yr The DC3 by Aeroplane Heaven would be priced similar as their Electra, asuming the same quality (I hope better): ~32 USD For the Wright flyer I make a comparison to the Wing42 Bleriot IX, which is ~24 USD Edited November 3, 20223 yr by orchestra_nl Flightsim rig: CPU: AMD 5900x | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant |Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant | Stream Deck XL & Plus | TrackIR 5 Tobii eye tracking
November 3, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, orchestra_nl said: The DC3 by Aeroplane Heaven would be priced similar as their Electra, asuming the same quality (I hope better): ~32 USD For the Wright flyer I make a comparison to the Wing42 Bleriot IX, which is ~24 USD I marked my Wright Flyer well down as it has no engine, systems, or instruments at all, basically not even like a modern glider. Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
November 3, 20223 yr My hope is that aircraft like the A310 continue to get updated and also continue to add other variants like cargo and different engines. To be honest I'd rather have them charge separate if it meant more updates. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
November 3, 20223 yr Just now, micstatic said: My hope is that aircraft like the A310 continue to get updated and also continue to add other variants like cargo and different engines. To be honest I'd rather have them charge separate if it meant more updates. I agree. I doubt the market is large enough for more than one version of the same aircraft so if the first one creates a so-so version we are probably stuck with it. Flightsim rig: CPU: AMD 5900x | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant |Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant | Stream Deck XL & Plus | TrackIR 5 Tobii eye tracking
November 3, 20223 yr Author 13 minutes ago, micstatic said: My hope is that aircraft like the A310 continue to get updated and also continue to add other variants like cargo and different engines. To be honest I'd rather have them charge separate if it meant more updates. I think in one of the other threads here at Avsim, lwt1971 posted a comment from an iniBuilds employee, where the employee said they would only guarantee bug fixes for the A310. As for new features, the employee wouldn't promise that, but he wouldn't count it out either: Edited November 3, 20223 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
November 3, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, abrams_tank said: I think in one of the other threads here at Avsim, lwt1971 posted a comment from an iniBuilds employee, where the employee said they would only guarantee bug fixes for the A310. As for new features, the employee wouldn't promise that, but he wouldn't count it out either: In other words, the employee is in a situation similar to myself at work a lot of the time. The big, big boss who decides all policy hasn't decided yet, so the employee doesn't know which way it will go until they are told! As MS / Asobo are paying for the aircraft development, iniBuilds would be contracted to provide bug fixes anyway for a certain period of time. If the A310 is well received, it will be a great advert for them, and might make it commercially viable for them to add other versions of the A310 that they can sell at a later date. If I was the big, big boss, that is how I would be looking at it. Just a footnote: I would hope any A310 expansion or add-on would be priced accordingly and sensibly once we have the free version. For instance, if they tried to charge a heavy price for say the cargo version, that would be a bit of a kicker. I wouldn't be paying $50 for that! I believe we will be getting the more numerous -200 version for free won't we? Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
November 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Sceadu said: Strewth Is that good strewth or bad strewth? Loving the avatar by the way. Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
November 3, 20223 yr I just remembered. The Curtiss Jenny and the Grumman G22 Goose are missing as well. I will go $17 and $20 respectively. And I am also betting on another unannounced surprise. There has to be a bit of a surprise. Jorg loves them! Chicago Meigs Filed has been talked about, but I am thinking about another 'aerospace' vehicle. Anyone for a Lear Jet? Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
November 3, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, bobcat999 said: As MS / Asobo are paying for the aircraft development, iniBuilds would be contracted to provide bug fixes anyway for a certain period of time. If the A310 is well received, it will be a great advert for them, and might make it commercially viable for them to add other versions of the A310 that they can sell at a later date. If I was the big, big boss, that is how I would be looking at it. Just a footnote: I would hope any A310 expansion or add-on would be priced accordingly and sensibly once we have the free version. For instance, if they tried to charge a heavy price for say the cargo version, that would be a bit of a kicker. I wouldn't be paying $50 for that! I believe we will be getting the more numerous -200 version for free won't we? I wouldn't mind if iniBuilds moved on to re-focus on their A380 after the A310 release as their first paid offering for MSFS, as opposed to paid variants of the A310 (but then again we have the freeware FBW A380 coming). Their A380 seems be on hold for the moment.. mb944 — 31/10/2022 R u guys making the A380? Josh — 31/10/2022 We have an A380 project, yes. It's on the backburner for now, however Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
November 3, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, orchestra_nl said: The DC3 by Aeroplane Heaven would be priced similar as their Electra, asuming the same quality (I hope better): ~32 USD For the Wright flyer I make a comparison to the Wing42 Bleriot IX, which is ~24 USD From the AH dev regarding the DC3 http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/127497-AH-DC-3-Releasing-March-2022?p=1292090&viewfull=1#post1292090 Quote Yes, I am delighted and thrilled to finally announce that Aeroplane Heaven has been invited to partner with Microsoft to bring you the DC-3/C-47 package as part of the free 40th Anniversary pack in November. We have been under an NDA for a while but now we can finally talk about this exciting opportunity for us and for you guys. The package will be the self-same one we would release ourselves with more features and additional advantages. The best thing is that it will now, of course, be FREE! Also, as part of the 40th. Anniversary, we will be releasing the entire livery pack from the original pack specifications, absolutely free. All your favourite airlines and a few interesting ones including South American and Iceland. The soundpack is now completed and authored by the best in the business. The flight model is also now complete and is also authored by one of the best out there to ensure you get the closest DC-3 experience to real there is. Together with Microsoft we will further develop systems and other features to bring you the definitive DC-3 for Flight Simulator. Edited November 3, 20223 yr by jeansy Matt NT - AUSTRALIA
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