November 3, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, bobcat999 said: And I am also betting on another unannounced surprise. There has to be a bit of a surprise. Jorg loves them! Chicago Meigs Filed has been talked about ... I am quite sure the decision to close Meigs Field must have cost Chicago a fairly big chunk of tourist dollars. Flight simmers the world over automatically had Chicago on their list of "places to visit when in the US" back in the day. Edited November 3, 20223 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick
November 4, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Matchstick said: If, as seems the case, it doesn't come with the Cargo and other variants or engine options then it's explicitly lacking features that are included in the in the XP version. That to me is a pretty accurate description of "cut-down". It indeed is the case it won't come with cargo and other variants or engine options for MSFS, and yes to you I suppose that's an accurate description of "cut-down". To others including myself "cut-down" is anything but accurate when comparing the base A310 + variants + engine options for USD $78-ish for XP *versus* the base A310 with equal-to or revamped/better features than the XP version for $0 for MSFS. The vital point we're discussing here is the A310 base aircraft and if fidelity/features were dialled back for it in order to release it for free in MSFS. The answer to that question is an obvious no given what the iniBuilds have said multiple times, and given that they're obviously being paid the right bucks by MS for something they initially sought to release independently as a high fidelity payware bird for MSFS. Edited November 4, 20223 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
November 4, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, Todd2 said: I'd pay $35 for the DC-3. I hope it has a real Sperry autopilot. And an ADF radio without lit digital readouts or printed circuit board type electrical knobs, but instead heavy metal knobs and levers. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
November 4, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, Todd2 said: I'd pay $35 for the DC-3. I would too if it was on a PMDG DC-6 type level but I doubt the DC-3 by AH will ever be, other than that nah would be overpriced. On another note watch the Curtis Jenny and the Grumman Goose be the most detailed free addons after the A310 by Inibuilds on Nov 11. They are doing all 3. Edited November 4, 20223 yr by jbdbow1970
November 4, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, lwt1971 said: It indeed is the case it won't come with cargo and other variants or engine options for MSFS, and yes to you I suppose that's an accurate description of "cut-down". To others including myself "cut-down" is anything but accurate when comparing the base A310 + variants + engine options for USD $78-ish for XP *versus* the base A310 with equal-to or revamped/better features than the XP version for $0 for MSFS. The vital point we're discussing here is the A310 base aircraft and if fidelity/features were dialled back for it in order to release it for free in MSFS. The answer to that question is an obvious no given what the iniBuilds have said multiple times, and given that they're obviously being paid the right bucks by MS for something they initially sought to release independently as a high fidelity payware bird for MSFS. It is still cut down from the X-Plane release to hit a price point. That's not necessarily a bad thing but ultimately being free means you get less, and personally speaking I liked those extra options and features and hope they can be added in some day.
November 4, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Matchstick said: It is still cut down from the X-Plane release to hit a price point. That's not necessarily a bad thing but ultimately being free means you get less, and personally speaking I liked those extra options and features and hope they can be added in some day. I like those options and extras too. But let's see what we get first. Free is a relative term. Somebody is paying for it 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
November 4, 20223 yr I don't think the DC-3 will be a 'Lite' version. It was intended as a proper payware release, and I get the impression that development was pretty much complete by the time Asobo bought it. The Inibuilds Grumman Goose and A310 look fully featured too. As for the others, I'm not too bothered. The Wright flier, Jenny and Hughes H.4 won't get much use anyway, and neither will the Beaver if it's float-plane only. Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting. https://rationalwiki.org
November 4, 20223 yr I don t understand the point of this thread - maybe my english is too poor. You guess what the price is on addons that are not yet published or what you are going to pay for them? Are they sold as a bundle athe end and you consider what they would cost seperately? Or is will be there a sort of auction where the best bidding wins the addon? Does the SU11 cost something? Mmmh. Intel i9-14900K, 64 GB RAM, MB ASUS ROG STRIX 790-E, NVIDIA GTX 4080 Super 16GB, 2 x 2 TB M.2, BE QUIET Pure Power 12 M 1000W, BE QUIET Silent Loop 3 360 AIO, BE QUIET Dark Base Pro 901, 4K-Monitor, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, Thrustmaster TCA Yoke, Streamdeck XL, Thrustmaster T.16000M Joystick, Saitek Rudder Pedals, WINCTRL PAP3, WINCTRL 3M PDC, JetMax 737 home cockpi
November 4, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, PTI139 said: I don t understand the point of this thread - maybe my english is too poor. You guess what the price is on addons that are not yet published or what you are going to pay for them? Are they sold as a bundle athe end and you consider what they would cost seperately? Or is will be there a sort of auction where the best bidding wins the addon? Does the SU11 cost something? Mmmh. Don't take it so seriously. It's just a bit of fun! A lot of these would have been payware if MS/ Asobo hadn't bought them to put them in the sim for free next week (40th Anniversary update). So it is just a bit of light-hearted fun trying to guess what the price would have been as payware. Whether you would have bought them or not is another thing, but it doesn't matter. I would not have bought many of them anyway, but the prices I guessed are what I would expect them to be sold for. I was certainly waiting for a DC-3 and Beaver, but I am not really interested in things like the Curtiss Jenny. Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
November 4, 20223 yr Author 9 minutes ago, PTI139 said: I don t understand the point of this thread - maybe my english is too poor. You guess what the price is on addons that are not yet published or what you are going to pay for them? Are they sold as a bundle athe end and you consider what they would cost seperately? Or is will be there a sort of auction where the best bidding wins the addon? Does the SU11 cost something? Mmmh. All the aircraft in the first post, plus a few more that I missed, are coming free in SU 11. It's all free, we don't play anything if we own MSFS. But some of these aircraft, if sold separately, would cost money. The iniBuilds 310 could realistically sell for $60 USD, on par with the Fenix A320 and PMDG 737, if the iniBuilds A310 is a study level airliner. So what would the cost of all these "free" aircraft cost if we had to purchase them separately and it wasn't offered for free in SU 11. I think a few people earlier in this thread estimated the cost would be something like $200 USD for all the aircraft we are getting in SU11. And that $200 USD estimate was missing a few planes, because the article I cited was also missing a few planes in SU11. So perhaps if those planes are included, we are getting more than $200 USD in free planes in SU11. I'm not gonna argue with free 😄. I myself would have paid $30 USD for the Beaver. For the iniBuilds A310, I'm not so sure if I would have paid $60 USD for it, I probably would have waited a few years for it to go on sale and maybe I would have paid $30 USD if I waited a few years for it to go on sale (because I already own the PMDG 737-800, and the FBW A320 is free, so I have enough airliners to use in MSFS for the time being). But the iniBuilds A310 is free for me now in SU11, so I'm not complaining 😄. Edited November 4, 20223 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
November 4, 20223 yr I see now - thanks 🙂 It is all free - that is good news. Intel i9-14900K, 64 GB RAM, MB ASUS ROG STRIX 790-E, NVIDIA GTX 4080 Super 16GB, 2 x 2 TB M.2, BE QUIET Pure Power 12 M 1000W, BE QUIET Silent Loop 3 360 AIO, BE QUIET Dark Base Pro 901, 4K-Monitor, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, Thrustmaster TCA Yoke, Streamdeck XL, Thrustmaster T.16000M Joystick, Saitek Rudder Pedals, WINCTRL PAP3, WINCTRL 3M PDC, JetMax 737 home cockpi
November 4, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Matchstick said: It is still cut down from the X-Plane release to hit a price point. That's not necessarily a bad thing but ultimately being free means you get less, and personally speaking I liked those extra options and features and hope they can be added in some day. I don't think anything really changed with it being included free with MSFS other than what liveries they can include. I don't recall them ever saying if the freighter variant would be included in the paid release. And I guess making it compatible with X-Box, I don't know if inibuilds originally intended to release it for X-box. Edited November 4, 20223 yr by Tuskin38
November 4, 20223 yr I actually had set aside $100 for the Aeroplane Heaven DC-3, and was checking their Facebook daily.
November 4, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, dobee51 said: I actually had set aside $100 for the Aeroplane Heaven DC-3, and was checking their Facebook daily. Wow, that's a lot of money for the Aeroplane Heaven DC-3! I'm not that much into the older planes, but I would assume the Aeroplane DC-3 would have sold for $30 USD or so? i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
November 4, 20223 yr Just to get in on the fun here @bobcat999 I am assuming your cost estimates were based on the brief glimpses from the Microsoft trailers? Depending on the interior details the value may be shifted one way or the other. I have more historical blood in me for this new batch arriving and really hoping the interior of the Spruce Goose does not disappoint. From the few seconds of the trailers, the exterior textures look good. Fingers crossed! Latest video at The Flight Level Flight Over Frozen Lake Erie - Between Ice and Clouds - Ultimate Solitude - The Perfect Memory
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