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[Fiorentoni 4,231]

That's got to be the weirdest early access I've ever seen in flight sim history. I mean on the plus side they are very transparent and customer-orientated and it's definitely better than any CaptainSim product that gets sold as "finished", but it feels really strange to have them do polls over stuff like "FMS speed" or "TCAS". It feels like a weird mix between freeware projects like the A32NX and payware aircraft. Not sure what to think of it.

[John_Tavendale 453]

Devs laughing at potential customers and taking pot shots at other devs. Hard pass for me. 

[Keirtt 574]

5 minutes ago, John_Tavendale said:

Devs laughing at potential customers and taking pot shots at other devs. Hard pass for me. 

I logged off because I was irritated. Can you elaborate?

[threexgreen 3,139]

9 minutes ago, Keirtt said:

I logged off because I was irritated. Can you elaborate?

Took a dig at PMDG, saying FSS have an EFB that at least does something rather than having none at all and at TFDi saying that paying for the E-Jet early access you at least get something. Also just lashed out at another dev who has been developing a wide body aircraft for 3 years and "still doesn't have anything to show", asking what the better approach to development is.

Bit unprofessional.

Edited January 5, 2023 by Nixoq
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[Keirtt 574]

2 minutes ago, Nixoq said:

Took a dig at PMDG, saying FSS have an EFB that at least does something rather than having none at all and at TFDi saying that paying for the E-Jet early access you at least get something. Also just lashed out another dev who has been developing a wide body aircraft for 3 years and "still doesn't have anything to show", asking what the better approach to development is.

Bit unprofessional.

Good to know. Yeah, I'll stay clear of this one as well.

[Fiorentoni 4,231]

For everyone who missed it: Price is 33€ + VAT.

[Fiorentoni 4,231]

From all the red flags the ugly cockpit is the worst for me. The screens look awfully weird, especially when powered off. They are grey. Modelling of the cockpit might be one of the worst I've seen yet in MSFS. It's legitimately worse than default aircraft, even worse than the Feelthere E-Jet on P3D (!).
For whatever strange reason the cabin does look massively better than the cockpit. That's such a weird product.

[regis9 4,014]

34 minutes ago, Nixoq said:

Took a dig at PMDG, saying FSS have an EFB that at least does something rather than having none at all

Not lying I was going to actually make this joke 😀

Then follow it up by pointing out that from what we’ve seen there’s no guarantee  this aircraft will do most of anything else that the PMDG 737 does…

This was I can equally offend the PMDG lovers and haters haha.

Edited January 5, 2023 by regis9

[F737MAX 5,607]

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

If they deliver on their promises I don't see the issue.

*If* is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, when:

1. it is a new developer with no track record
2. there are a lot of very basic elements missing from systems
3. the modelling and texturing don't look that great (as summed up below)
    

   4 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

   From all the red flags the ugly cockpit is the worst for me. The screens look awfully weird, especially when powered off. They are grey. Modelling of the cockpit might be one of the worst I've seen yet in MSFS. It's legitimately worse than default aircraft, even worse than the Feelthere E-Jet on P3D (!).
   For whatever strange reason the cabin does look massively better than the cockpit. That's such a weird product.

I know I should not have built up my expectations, but this falls well short of what I would consider a sellable product, even at an early access stage.

[threexgreen 3,139]

2 minutes ago, F737MAX said:

I know I should not have built up my expectations, but this falls well short of what I would consider a sellable product, even at an early access stage.

I'm holding back on judging the details in the textures based on the video, but to me the panel background looks kind of bland, almost like not PBR. It feels like it's lacking the 'realness'. Hard to describe.

[Fiorentoni 4,231]

I don't know if it's my tired eyes or poor quality of the stream, but the interior looked much better in the preview videos. Is it only me?
Exterior looks good.

[Cognita 1,088]

Yea, I think I am out for this one.

[F737MAX 5,607]

2 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

but the interior looked much better in the preview videos. Is it only me

Could be a different build of the add-on.

Could be poor streaming quality.

Could be bad lighting choices on the streamer's PC.

Could be the fact that AviationLads is a marketing 'agency'. Anything shown in the preview teaser videos does not have to correlate with the end product/real life.
From the About section on AL's YouTube channel:

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It is our major objectiv to create additional value for developers by optimizing the way how they present their products and interact with the community. Utilizing my long-time experience in graphics design, AviationLads produces high-quality flight simulation videos that will present your products in the best possible light.

Or could be some/all/none of the above
🤷‍♂️ Don't know. Just nowhere near as interested as I was before this evening's livestream started.

[EnSnellHest 51]

Sure, it has a long way to go until it will match PMDG or Fenix, but for 33 euro I will most likely get it.

Atleast it is something new to fly...

[Amon1973 1,421]

1 hour ago, Chapstick said:

...and that's how they keep getting away with it. 

Well I'm giving them a chance. Although from a different dev, I bought the 414 in early access and it's probably the best twin in MSFS. So that one turned out fine. Maybe this will.