9 minutes ago, Chunk said:

I can see the DSR settings in the standard nVidia drivers.

They are not there for me.  Is this because I have a 1080ti and not an 'rx' type of gfx card?? 

Thanks 

2 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

They are not there for me.  Is this because I have a 1080ti and not an 'rx' type of gfx card??

No, I have a portable machine with a 1080Ti and the DSR settings are there.  In fact they're present on my daily driver desktop running a 970 as well.

On 1/7/2023 at 9:53 AM, Cameron XA said:

Hey @JETPETER2,

Yeah, AA has had some issues in XP12. There's a few instances depending on scenery and weather that cause the AA process to essentially stop working (in simplest terms). When this acts up the AA does look awful, I agree!

I worked with Ben Supnik about a week ago on pinpointing this issue and Laminar has got a handle on why/where it's happening now after we ran numerous tests. Not sure when the fix for it will be implemented, because as it stands it's not trivial, but it will be fixed now that we know where it's going wrong.

Thank you this is good news!

12 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

am i ghrt in thinking you have studio drivers on Mike ??  as I cant see the DSR settings in my NCP.  thanks

Hi,

I'd download the latest nvidia drivers if you haven't already and reinstall them.

3 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

They are not there for me.  Is this because I have a 1080ti and not an 'rx' type of gfx card?? 

Thanks 

Is "Enable Developer Settings" checked under Desktop?

Well as long as they don't introduce TAA, I think there will be no "fix" - the MSAA X-Plane uses is simply outdated and not sufficient for flight simulation. And don't get me started about FSR, it might be ok if you're blind. No comparison to DLSS (which would only work for NVIDIA users anyway).

And you can be lucky you are on NVIDIA - I am on a new, powerful Mac (the dev platform of X-Plane), and it is a complete sh*tshow. AA is horrible and there simply is no way to lock the sim at 30 FPS. Literally unflyable. Display resolutions are broken, too. I can't set to 2560x1440 (which would be 50% of my 5K resolution), the menu option is there but nothing happens.

5 minutes ago, Colonel X said:

Well as long as they don't introduce TAA, I think there will be no "fix" - the MSAA X-Plane uses is simply outdated and not sufficient for flight simulation. And don't get me started about FSR, it might be ok if you're blind. No comparison to DLSS (which would only work for NVIDIA users anyway).

And you can be lucky you are on NVIDIA - I am on a new, powerful Mac (the dev platform of X-Plane), and it is a complete sh*tshow. AA is horrible and there simply is no way to lock the sim at 30 FPS. Literally unflyable. Display resolutions are broken, too. I can't set to 2560x1440 (which would be 50% of my 5K resolution), the menu option is there but nothing happens.

Agree to strongly disagree.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/629034-fsr-vs-dlss/

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-fidelityfx-super-resolution-vs-nvidia-dlss/

Just about every 3PD in X-Plane has agreed with Laminars decision to stick with FSR.  Which is what XP12 is using.

Out of curiosity, what kind of Mac do you have?  I have 3 of them, and I'm interested in why you want to lock fps at 30fps, when you can just turn on vsync to prevent screen tearing.

Edited January 9, 20233 yr by GoranM

Well, in my book, FSR 2.0 is ok if you can't have DLSS 2.0, which is still superior (given you have NV hardware). See here:

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-amd-fidelity-fx-super-resolution-20-the-new-radeon-upscaler-is-genuinely-impressive

All I can say is that the FSR results I get in XP12 are unusable (a blurry, shimmering mess). That's probably related to me upscaling 1080p to my 5K display, because the 1440p resolution is defunct in XP12 on Mac. Also, DLSS 3.0 is probably the greatest innovation of all. I really don't see AMD holding a candle to NVIDIA here, whether it's DLSS 2.0 or 3.0.

I want to lock to 30FPS because it feels much better than having variable 30-60FPS, even if there's no tearing. It's been like this for 10+ years and I don't think XP12 is different here. It's just lazy Laminar doesn't offer this within the sim, like many other games do.

My Mac is a M1 Max. 

 

4 minutes ago, Colonel X said:

Well, in my book, FSR 2.0 is ok if you can't have DLSS 2.0, which is still superior (given you have NV hardware). See here:

I agree with you, but not fully.  In all the tests I've seen, DLSS has the upper hand in performance.  But only slightly.  As an overall upscaler, AMD/FSR has the upper hand.  For some people, performance is king.  And that's fine.  For developers, they want compatibility and flexibility.  

9 minutes ago, Colonel X said:

All I can say is that the FSR results I get in XP12 are unusable (a blurry, shimmering mess). That's probably related to me upscaling 1080p to my 5K display, because the 1440p resolution is defunct in XP12 on Mac.

I can run tests and see what is going on, and maybe figure out what you're doing wrong.  I'm getting very clear textures with no shimmering.  

9 minutes ago, Colonel X said:

Also, DLSS 3.0 is probably the greatest innovation of all. I really don't see AMD holding a candle to NVIDIA here, whether it's DLSS 2.0 or 3.0.

I've researched DLSS and FSR, extensively.  Developers have asked Laminar about their thoughts on DLSS.  LR have agreed that DLSS is very good, but they have opted for FSR.  Primarily because X-Plane is made on a Mac, so nvidia isn't an option.  But also they believe it's a better, overall, upscaler. 

11 minutes ago, Colonel X said:

I want to lock to 30FPS because it feels much better than having variable 30-60FPS, even if there's no tearing. It's been like this for 10+ years and I don't think XP12 is different here. It's just lazy Laminar doesn't offer this within the sim, like many other games do.

It's not that they're lazy.  It's just that they don't see a need for it with the vsync option.  

12 minutes ago, Colonel X said:

My Mac is a M1 Max. 

Perfect.  I have a maxed out M1 Max (with the exception of the 8TB SSD.  I have 4TB).  Happy to go through a few things to fix your issues in DM if you want.