January 21, 20233 yr I'm totally new with Airbus and decided to take the plunge starting w/ FBW just this morning. It's impressive to say the least coming from PMDG 738 which seems simple by comparison--I mean to build. While simming along w/ a tutorial was able to get the EFB and MCDU more or less partially understood. Got the the runway and took off but for some reason despite engaging AP and AT it didn't track my plan that was input correctly and showed a viable route from KDEN to KLAS. I looked all over for familiar LNAV/VNAV controls but didn't see them so aborted this first practice run and am about to start a second try to reinforce what I learned. I guess there is a Nav mode switch which I don't think was mentioned in the tutorial I was using I read later. Some stuff is intuitive but I found it odd the plane would not generate an TO elevator trim and instead he referred me to find a chart and go off the CoG displayed. Overall, it seems busier and more complex than PMDG 738. I look forward to flying it successfully hopefully shortly! Anyway, my sense is the Fenix is best in class, but why is that? What's so different or better about it over the FBW? Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
January 21, 20233 yr While I have installed both the FBW and Fenex versions of the A320, I have found myself using the Fenex bird almost exclusively. For me, the tight integration of the Fenex EFB and MCDU with Simbrief flight plans and Navigraph charts is critical; they just work seamlessly. Further, unless there have been more recent updates to the FBW model that I have missed, the FBW aircraft has not fully implemented VNAV. I believe it is only available on the experimental version, although that could change. But with the Fenex A320, you have a fully functional LNAV and VNAV, and you will see top of cruise and top of descent calculated and those points displayed on your Nav display. With the A320, you do not have distinct LNAV and VNAV switches explicitly labeled as such, such as you find on a B737. Rather, the knob by the heading display operates in LNAV mode when pressed in so that the display reads - - - . Similarly, the altitude adjustment knob functions in VNAV mode when it is pressed in, so that you again see the solid dot by the selected altitude. Hope this helps. Rich
January 22, 20233 yr Author 6 hours ago, rlashier said: Rather, the knob by the heading display operates in LNAV mode when pressed in so that the display reads - - - . Similarly, the altitude adjustment knob functions in VNAV mode when it is pressed in, so that you again see the solid dot by the selected altitude. Those buttons don't seem to want to be pressed. Somehow I got into the ------- mode but now I can't get it back to HDG or VS modes. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
January 22, 20233 yr Push the button - managed by the Airbus! (LNAV/VNAV) Pull the button - selected by the Pilot! Regards, Jan Ast Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2 Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder
January 22, 20233 yr For me the main difference between the Fenix and the FBW is that the FBW induces a significant stuttering on my system whereas the Fenix is totally smooth. Unless FBW have solved this issue recently, I haven't used it for a while. Other than that watch a few tutorials on youtube on how to fly the Airbus. There are lots of them.
January 22, 20233 yr 8 hours ago, Noel said: Some stuff is intuitive but I found it odd the plane would not generate an TO elevator trim It does. Can be found after engine start in the fuel pred menu, the CG % value you need to set on the wheel. Keep in mind that this is calculated via the ZFWCG you entered on the init B page, which you get from the loadsheet. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
January 22, 20233 yr 8 hours ago, rlashier said: For me, the tight integration of the Fenex EFB and MCDU with Simbrief flight plans and Navigraph charts is critical; they just work seamlessly Ditto the FBW. Simbrief and Navigraph work seamlessly. So that is not an advantage. At best a tie. VNAV also working well on the Experimental branch at least, so again, a tie at best. GregH Intel Core i7 14700K / Palit RTX4070Ti Super OC / Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 MHz / MSI Z790 M/board / Corsair NVMe 9500 read, 8500 write / Corsair PSU1200W / CH Products Yoke, Pedals & Quad; Airbus Side Stick, Airbus Quadrant / TrackIR, 32” 4K 144hz 1ms Monitor
January 22, 20233 yr Love them both, Once had quite bad FPS in the Fenix so flew the FBW for a long time and loved it, now I'm back trying the Fenix and I've put FS2Crew in it, love it too again. Regards, Max (YSSY) i7-12700K | Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB 3600MHz DDR4 | Gigabyte RTX4090 24Gb | Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE DDR4 | Corsair HX1200 PSU
January 22, 20233 yr The FBW has cabin sounds (boarding, crew announcements). 9800X3D | 5080 | 32GB | 2TB NVME | Dell Ultrasharp U3415W 34" | 3440 x 1440 60Hz
January 22, 20233 yr Taxiing the FBW A320 is a royal PITA even after following directions given in FBW's documentation. This is the one and only reason that I use Fenix A320 exclusively. Kind regards, Hans van WIjhe Acer Predator P03-640 2.10 Ghz Intel 12th Gen Core 17-12700F 64GB memory, Noctua NH-U9S Cooler, 1.02 TB SSD HD, 1.02 TB HD, NVidia Geforce RTX 3070 16GB Memory, Windows 11 (x64)
January 22, 20233 yr Just now, hvw said: Taxiing the FBW A320 is a royal PITA even after following directions given in FBW's documentation. This is the one and only reason that I use Fenix A320 exclusively. Huh? Why is that? For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
January 22, 20233 yr 17 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said: Huh? Why is that? You tell me 🙂 Kind regards, Hans van WIjhe Acer Predator P03-640 2.10 Ghz Intel 12th Gen Core 17-12700F 64GB memory, Noctua NH-U9S Cooler, 1.02 TB SSD HD, 1.02 TB HD, NVidia Geforce RTX 3070 16GB Memory, Windows 11 (x64)
January 22, 20233 yr Or the simple answer:- Fenix A320 is the the Standard (Old version) and The FBW is the NEO (Newer version), I use both, both have pro's and con's, both are brilliant. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 4.2 32 gig ram, Nvidia RTX3060 12 gig, Intel 760 SSD M2 NVMe 512 gig, M2NVMe 1Tbt (OS) M2NVMe 2Tbt (MSFS) Crucial MX500 SSD (Backup OS). VR Oculus Quest 2 Windows 11 25H2 YouTube:- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96wsF3D_h5GzNNJnuDH3WQ 2k+ Videos & Streams BATC and FSFO FB Group:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/1571953959750565 Flight Sim First Officer (FSFOv6) and SoFly Beta Tester Reality Is For People Who Can't Handle Simulation!
January 22, 20233 yr On a sidenote from an A320 sim pilot who tries to fly the 737: Why does this old-fashioned piece of aluminum has so many unnecessary knobs and switches? 😉
January 22, 20233 yr Author 8 hours ago, Paladin2005 said: 6 hours ago, Fiorentoni said: It does. Can be found after engine start in the fuel pred menu, the CG % value you need to set on the wheel. Keep in mind that this is calculated via the ZFWCG you entered on the init B page, which you get from the loadsheet. I got the CG% value from there but the tutorial referred me to find a chart online to convert that into the correct setting for pitch trim. Apparently it can be determined looking at the trim wheel I guess you are saying? I'll look in a little bit thanks! Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
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