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What makes Fenix the better A32 over FBW...or is it?

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Just now, environmental_ice said:

 I don't fly the FBW as much anymore but when I do I'm always pleasantly reminded it has this great feature among forgetting how beautiful the cockpit is compared to the Fenix

Excuse me? You seriously think the FBW cockpit is visually better than the Fenix? I must doubt your vision, the Fenix has the highest visual quality of a cockpit in flight sim history. The FBW looks like a bland default plane in comparison (no offense).

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Just now, Bobsk8 said:

I never use that button and all my steering is done with rudder pedals. When I start to taxi, I can easily see if rudder deflections are proper. No issues at all. 

Bob, the fact that you only steer with your rudder, which is wrong according to RW procedures, doesn't make it right in the Fenix or any other Airbus simulation. 

It's something they have to fix...

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2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I never use that button and all my steering is done with rudder pedals. When I start to taxi, I can easily see if rudder deflections are proper. No issues at all. 

This is such a Bob post 

3 minutes ago, cagarini said:

Bob, the fact that you only steer with your rudder, which is wrong according to RW procedures, doesn't make it right in the Fenix or any other Airbus simulation. 

It's something they have to fix...

I use the tiller and I have no problems, rudder-only moves when using pedal disc as it should. Maybe what you describe is the case in the other unrealistic option in the EFB. With NWS enabled in the EFB it's exactly as it should be.

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Just now, cagarini said:

Bob, the fact that you only steer with your rudder, which is wrong according to RW procedures, doesn't make it right in the Fenix or any other Airbus simulation. 

It's something they have to fix...

I had tiller steering in aircraft in P3D, and I never used it. 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

With NWS enabled in the EFB it's exactly as it should be.

No, it's not. The pedal disconnect button isn't simulated accurately. 

 

5 minutes ago, cagarini said:

Bob, the fact that you only steer with your rudder, which is wrong according to RW procedures

Please don't turn me in to the FAA.....🤪

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3 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

Excuse me? You seriously think the FBW cockpit is visually better than the Fenix? I must doubt your vision, the Fenix has the highest visual quality of a cockpit in flight sim history. The FBW looks like a bland default plane in comparison (no offense).

I think the displays are clearer, easier to read and overall just more "brand new" looking. Sure that may come off as bland factory fresh and How realistic is that is an entirely different debate. 

 
 
Just now, Chapstick said:

No, it's not. The pedal disconnect button isn't simulated accurately. 

Care to elaborate? I push it, I move the pedals, rudder moves, NW doesn't.

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Just now, Fiorentoni said:

Care to elaborate? I push it, I move the pedals, rudder moves, NW doesn't.

Watch it, you are arguing with the pedal disconnect guru.....

 

 

 

42 minutes ago, gdjak said:

Do you get full rudder deflection? 

Yes, I did. Strange, isn't it?

Let's forget it, I'll just continue with Fenix A320CEO

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Did my 3rd flight, or should I say attempt, using flybag's import of SimBrief pax/load, proceeded to take off and for some reason got into the A. FLOOR condition which I think came from exceeding weight loads near as I can tell.  The plane climbs at an excessive rate with N2 at only 92% while TAS drops to 200 and stays there.  I pitched the nose down to regain air speed, the condition resolved, but I could never get autothrottle/VNAV to engage and stay engaged.  I followed a 1h tutorial very nicely done and had the route input correctly and LNVA tracking was working but haven't figured out what went wrong causing the A. Floor condition.   

On the brighter side I did adjust to the hypersensitive nose-wheel steering but it's just so sensitive compared to all other planes in my hangar.  FBW mentions this clearly and it is learnable for sure as you all know.  I do use auto-rudder which PMDG said I needed to turn off, but works fine w/ that plane and all other planes.  I have rudder linked to aileron axis and it works well w/ PMDG 738 and CRJ700 and it seems to work w/ the FBW A320N but it's so much more sensitive than all other planes in this function.   In fact for reasons I don't understand rudder action tied to aileron is very modest in all other planes and largely self-centering.  In this plane a slight turn of the yoke imparts a big change and it doesn't self center so it's really hard to control.   I don't understand why it is so different from all other planes I'm used to, which are all generally similar in this regard.  I won't be adding pedals anytime soon I've happily done w/o them for 30y now.   The plane is really is a masterpiece of freeware including the amazing integration w/ the Flybag/Simbrief so worth staying with it for me.

Performance is fairly good in terms of CPU impact, but I get a new 'hitch' in animation that I haven't had for months now, a sudden pause typically while turning during taxi, and I never get these in other planes now.  I R&R'd a livery I thought might be contributing to this but did didn't help.

And I did notice the button presses executed by pushin an up arrow--no very intuitive. 

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20 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

Excuse me? You seriously think the FBW cockpit is visually better than the Fenix? I must doubt your vision, the Fenix has the highest visual quality of a cockpit in flight sim history. The FBW looks like a bland default plane in comparison (no offense).

You have to love these 180 degree divergent opinions 🙃

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Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

16 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

Care to elaborate? I push it, I move the pedals, rudder moves, NW doesn't.

Are you stationary while doing this? You can't move the rudder independently while taxiing during flight control checks, which is Airbus SOP, without it also moving the nosewheel. 

15 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Watch it, you are arguing with the pedal disconnect guru.....

It's actually a pretty straight forward concept and you don't need to be a genius to get it, but I can understand how you would see it that way. 

These "which is best" threads always turn into a drama...😀

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