32 minutes ago, Bigmack said:

I agree, but they made some great Citation jets for FS9 and FSX. A Citation X would be awesome in FS2020. Extreme Prototypes has projected GLJ Model 25/28 addons for MS2020, that will most likely be the only study business jet under development in future. 

Depends on your definition of study - their p3d ones were not, not sure if they have improved since the second (or was it third) version [have they still got Autothrottle because IAS hold doesn't work?] - do look good though I will give them that.

Flight FX are doing a Citation X, Citation X+ & Challenger 350 , plus you've got FSR doing a Phenom 300 - I've got decent expectations for those tbh ...

 

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3 hours ago, Gazzareth said:

Depends on your definition of study - their p3d ones were not, not sure if they have improved since the second (or was it third) version [have they still got Autothrottle because IAS hold doesn't work?] - do look good though I will give them that.

Flight FX are doing a Citation X, Citation X+ & Challenger 350 , plus you've got FSR doing a Phenom 300 - I've got decent expectations for those tbh ...

 

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I'm flying V4 of their jets for PD3v5. I think their awesome. Soon to release a PD3v6 version. Thanks for the info about the Citation X and Challenger, I'll most likely add both to my hanger.

18 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

They are sticking with P3D and have no interest in MSFS.

I'm totally fine with that honestly...👀

Eaglesoft's visuals have always been subpar even for FSX. That Citation's textures scrapes the barrel of default FSX Learjet textures unfortunately.

Being super tempted to buy it back then poor visuals always turned me off personally. Always been overpriced products even by FSX/P3D standards.

 

Edited July 9, 20241 yr by blueshark747

@blueshark747 got to be honest I loved v1 & v2, you are not wrong about the visuals, but systems wise it (v2) was by far the best business jet for 32bit FSX/P3D.

Fortunately we now have more options.

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2 minutes ago, Gazzareth said:

@blueshark747 got to be honest I loved v1 & v2, you are not wrong about the visuals, but systems wise it (v2) was by far the best business jet for 32bit FSX/P3D.

Fortunately we now have more options.

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I've always felt the Flight One Mustang was the best overall for FSX/P3D.

https://www.flight1.com/products.asp?vid=flt1sf&pid=mustang2

Sucks they let Cockspur beat them to the punch in MSFS.🤷‍♂️

I bought the F1 Mustang but only flew it once.  Unlike the HJET which I fly 3 hours every day.

The HJET IS currently the best bizjet for MSFS.

sp

 

Edited July 9, 20241 yr by Sky_Pilot071

1 minute ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

I bought the F1 Mustang but only flew it once.  Unlike the HJET which I fly 3 hours every day.

sp

 

I love our awesome HJet. It is by far the best feeling aircraft I have for MSFS.

Flying this beast in VR is just something different. It just fits like a glove. After a while you just become one with the HJet.

Every bump and touchdown on landing just feels so amazing not sure what the devs put into the secret sauce of its aerodynamics and physics handling but it soo satisfying to land.

The throttle accuracy and input as long as you respect her she will do exactly what you want.🍻

31 minutes ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

I bought the F1 Mustang but only flew it once.  Unlike the HJET which I fly 3 hours every day.

The HJET IS currently the best bizjet for MSFS.

Few more flights in the Mustang for me, but was a massive FPS hog.

Best in MSFS is subjective, for me it could go C700, CJ4, HJet or LJ35 - all are fantastic compared to what we had before..... (actually the LJ35 was good in p3d as well)..

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Ok now I do recall the Mustang's avionics displays eating a ton of performance in FSX and thinking why does this thing eat so much FPS with such lackluster visuals?🤷‍♂️

Flysimware have been pretty consistent with the L35A, it flies great in MSFS as well as much more modernized updated visuals from the new sim engine than FSX.

I really wish Lionheart Creations focused on bringing the Epic Victory VLJ to MSFS over that LearFan 2200, Tobago or Dragonfly.

Even though I'd much rather have Aerobask's Epic Victory Jet in MSFS, but never gonna happen apparently.

Edited July 9, 20241 yr by blueshark747

The beauty of the MSFS HJET comes in 3 parts 1) What WT did to the G3000, 2) What Marwan did to the flight and visual model and 3) what Honda Aviation did to reduce pilot workload.  On top of that the plane is easy on the fps so when I want to fly in MSFS I fly the HJET.

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On 7/6/2024 at 6:39 AM, EGLD said:

The longitude is great but, lack of cabin is a problem for me.

I know some laugh at this, but it really impacts immersion especially in a bizjet, you know you're just flying a cockpit around whereas with the HJet etc, you feel more like you're flying an actual complete aircraft.

I swear MS at one point promised a cabin for this back when they were pitching the differences between versions of MS.

 

On 7/6/2024 at 10:18 AM, Cognita said:

I feel the same. Flight simulation for me is "mission oriented" and while I spend very little time looking around the airport or the aircraft the little I do spend before getting down to work is important to immersion for me. I hope in 2024 Asobo models the cabin and ensures their aircraft have working doors.

 

On 7/6/2024 at 1:51 PM, blueshark747 said:

Don't feel alone!

I totally agree, lack of cabin and operable doors is a big thing to me on the priorities list.

MS/Asobo adding SciFi Fantasy Dune and Halo DLC content but we can't get operable doors on default aircraft? 🤷‍♂️

It's totally backwards!

Being able to get out of your aircraft and do a walk around is a promised (and shown off) feature in 2024. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if they at least added the cabin area around the door.

4 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

The beauty of the MSFS HJET comes in 3 parts 1) What WT did to the G3000, 2) What Marwan did to the flight and visual model and 3) what Honda Aviation did to reduce pilot workload.  On top of that the plane is easy on the fps so when I want to fly in MSFS I fly the HJET.

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You made me take the H-Jet out of my hanger and do A flight from CYQM to KBOS. You're right it's very fun to fly, low on the fps, smooth flight dynamins and response. I forgot that I purchased earlier this year. Thanks for the reminder!!!!!!