3 hours ago, EGLD said:

The longitude is great but, lack of cabin is a problem for me.

I know some laugh at this, but it really impacts immersion especially in a bizjet, you know you're just flying a cockpit around whereas with the HJet etc, you feel more like you're flying an actual complete aircraft.

I feel the same. Flight simulation for me is "mission oriented" and while I spend very little time looking around the airport or the aircraft the little I do spend before getting down to work is important to immersion for me. I hope in 2024 Asobo models the cabin and ensures their aircraft have working doors.

7 hours ago, EGLD said:

I swear MS at one point promised a cabin for this back when they were pitching the differences between versions of MS.

Don't feel alone!

I totally agree, lack of cabin and operable doors is a big thing to me on the priorities list.

MS/Asobo adding SciFi Fantasy Dune and Halo DLC content but we can't get operable doors on default aircraft? 🤷‍♂️

It's totally backwards!

Edited July 6, 20241 yr by blueshark747

Same here i like  the Longitude but lack of a cabin is a big negative for me.

Bruce

The lack of opening doors is a big one for me, for some reason it really symbolises the beginning and end of a flight to me. Weird I know, but it just doesn't feel right shutting down the engines and just immediately closing the sim down.

4 hours ago, matsout said:

The lack of opening doors is a big one for me, for some reason it really symbolises the beginning and end of a flight to me. Weird I know, but it just doesn't feel right shutting down the engines and just immediately closing the sim down.

Indeed. In the TBM you can even walkt back in VR using the Controller (or if your living room is big enough you can actually do it yourself) and then open up the door by unlocking and unlatching it, like in real life.

If I remember correctly, Jörg once said that they didn't have opening doors because then people would expect to be able to leave the plane after the flight, but obviously that feature (although it was planned) didn't make it into 2020. Funnily enough when they introduced the gliders you could open the canopy on the DG1001 but that has since been removed, I don't know why they've made an exception for the TBM. Anyway, now we know that this will fortunately change with 2024.

Having the CL650 in the other simulator for me makes it very difficult to fly any bizjet in mfs , I would like to see such an aircraft at studio level in mfs it would be buy day 1 for me.

1 hour ago, Aglos77 said:

Having the CL650 in the other simulator for me makes it very difficult to fly any bizjet in mfs , I would like to see such an aircraft at studio level in mfs it would be buy day 1 for me.

agreed 🙁

maybe we need to look at using MSFS as a scenery generator for XPlane!

11 hours ago, Aglos77 said:

Having the CL650 in the other simulator for me makes it very difficult to fly any bizjet in mfs , I would like to see such an aircraft at studio level in mfs it would be buy day 1 for me.

Yeah, telemetry data is one area where X-Plane beats MSFS. It’s what’s holding me back from getting a FFB controller. And I don’t enjoy flying in X-Plane so I really hope 2024 improves in this area. 

What ever happened to "Eaglesoft" they were supposed to release a 64bit version of their citation jets for and PD3, but all but disappeared since FS2020. I maybe wrong.

20 minutes ago, Bigmack said:

What ever happened to "Eaglesoft" they were supposed to release a 64bit version of their citation jets for and PD3, but all but disappeared since FS2020. I maybe wrong.

They are sticking with P3D and have no interest in MSFS. I asked that question on the P3D forum to their developer over a year ago on their possible new development for MS and they said no.

Edited July 9, 20241 yr by JBDB-MD80

14 hours ago, Aglos77 said:

Having the CL650 in the other simulator for me makes it very difficult to fly any bizjet in mfs , I would like to see such an aircraft at studio level in mfs it would be buy day 1 for me.

One thing for sure is I don't care that CL650 in the other sim is superior to anything in MS but at that selling price of $120 U.S. will be a hard pass for many folks in this market.

4 hours ago, Bigmack said:

What ever happened to "Eaglesoft" they were supposed to release a 64bit version of their citation jets for and PD3, but all but disappeared since FS2020. I maybe wrong.

Last I heard it was in beta, that was probably a year ago, so I'd guess another couple of years to go. Unless they've had a change of heart it will still need a different data subscription if you want updated NavData.

 

4 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

One thing for sure is I don't care that CL650 in the other sim is superior to anything in MS but at that selling price of $120 U.S. will be a hard pass for many folks in this market.

Add in the cost of XP12 as well, still worth every penny and far less than I have totally wasted on guff addon aircraft that I have barely flown... 

... actually hoping FS2024 allows us to do some of the stuff the Chally does to be honest - FBO, Walk around, access gear bays etc....

G

4 hours ago, Bigmack said:

What ever happened to "Eaglesoft" they were supposed to release a 64bit version of their citation jets for and PD3, but all but disappeared since FS2020. I maybe wrong.

Awful company. MSFS is way out of their league anyway. 

9 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

Awful company. MSFS is way out of their league anyway. 

I agree, but they made some great Citation jets for FS9 and FSX. A Citation X would be awesome in FS2020. Extreme Prototypes has projected GLJ Model 25/28 addons for MS2020, that will most likely be the only study business jet under development in future.