June 20, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: The only time I’ve seen a benefit in 60 over 30 is panning. Precisely. It seems you don’t use TrackIR, otherwise you would experience this lagginess quite often. PC1: AMD Ryzen 9800X3D | Zotac RTX 5090 SOLID | Asus TUF X670E-Plus | G.SKILL 64GB DDR5 PC 6000 CL30 | 4TB NVMe | Noctua NH-D15 | Asus TUF 1000W Gold | be quiet! Pure Base 500DX | Noctua NH-D15S | LG OLED CX 48" + 2x Acer Nitro XV240YP 24" + 2x 15.6" Touch-screen Panels PC2: AMD Ryzen 7500F | Asrock 7900 GRE Challenger OC | Gigabyte B650I AX | Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 CL36 | 1TB NVMe | CM Hyper 212 | Corsair 750W Gold | Lian Li TU150 ITX | SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 49" Winctrl Ursa Minor Sidestick + Ursa Minor 32 Throttle & PAC - Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle - MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - TrackIR - Stream Deck XL + Stream Deck Plus - Winctrl MCDU + 2 MFD's - Meta Quest 3 (VR)
June 20, 20232 yr Author Moderator 1 minute ago, GCBraun said: Precisely. It seems you don’t use TrackIR, otherwise you would experience this lagginess quite often. ChasePlane. The view switch is very quick. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
June 23, 20232 yr Author Moderator After checking with Chillblast about what X670E mobos they have I’ve now switched to a ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO. And instead of three SSDs I’m having just the one M.2 NVMe 4Tb connected to the PCIe v5 bus. Apparently a second can only use the v4 bus and will be much slower. So after years of multiple drives including a mechanical HDD things will be very different with this build. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
June 23, 20232 yr Commercial Member 6 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: And instead of three SSDs I’m having just the one M.2 NVMe 4Tb connected to the PCIe v5 bus. Apparently a second can only use the v4 bus and will be much slower. Can either of those SSDs saturate a PCIe v4 X4 link, never mind a v5? While the bus will be slower, I imagine both are significantly faster than even the newest SSDs. Cheers Luke Kolin I make simFDR, the most advanced flight data recorder for FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.
June 23, 20232 yr Author Moderator 7 minutes ago, Luke said: Can either of those SSDs saturate a PCIe v4 X4 link, never mind a v5? While the bus will be slower, I imagine both are significantly faster than even the newest SSDs. Cheers Don’t know Luke. I’m going by advice given by Rob Ainscough who knows his stuff. This is what he’s recommending. https://www.crucial.com/ssd/t700/CT1000T700SSD5.html Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
July 3, 20232 yr On 6/23/2023 at 1:20 PM, Ray Proudfoot said: Don’t know Luke. I’m going by advice given by Rob Ainscough who knows his stuff. This is what he’s recommending. https://www.crucial.com/ssd/t700/CT1000T700SSD5.html Rob must be advising that for future proofing as Luke is right, none of our SSD's will saturate a PCI Gen5 bus. Maybe he's thinking in terms of technology like DirectStorage that will be used down the line and let us use all of the Gen5 lanes for burst loads... You are wise to go with 4TB size. I know you will have a top-notch home Concorde simulation and this new PC will allow you a whole lot of flexibility towards that goal. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
July 3, 20232 yr Author Moderator @Mace, sadly the purchaser of my existing kit withdrew his offer at the weekend. I’m going to post details of it to the organiser of our monthly flight sim meetings and hope it will attract interest. Failing that I’ll advertise it locally as it’s still a fast machine for other games. If that fails I’ll probably move it to become my second machine running supporting software for P3D. The 32Gb of RAM will be great for photo editing. The existing second machine running W7 will be wiped and offered to a charity. So everything is on hold at present. I counted up all the data on two SSDs and a HDD and it was around 1.5Tb. So 4Tb will be perfect. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 16, 20232 yr Author Moderator With the release of 64-bit Concorde by FSL and seeing recommended specs I've now started the process of buying a new PC. After much thought over several months and flipping between Intel and AMD I've decided to stick with what I'm familiar with and I'm currently negotiating a deal with Chillblast for the following:- Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact - Black Intel Core i9 13900K MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 24GB ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero G.Skill RipJaws S5 Series (Intel XMP) 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin SDRAM DDR5 6000 CL30-40-40-96 1.35V Crucial T700 M.2-2280 4TB Corsair RMe Series 1000W ASUS ROG Strix LC II 240 ARGB Black be quiet! Silent Wings 4 Windows 11 Pro OEM Thermal Grizzly Thermal Paste Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 16, 20232 yr Wow! I am green, no triple green with envy. Intel i7 6700K @4.3. 32gb Gskill 3200 RAM. Z170x Gigabyte m/b. 28" LG HD monitor. Win 10 Home. 500g Samsung 960 as Windows home. 1 Gb Mushkin SSD for P3D. GTX 1080 8gb.
August 16, 20232 yr Author Moderator Just now, IanHarrison said: Wow! I am green, no triple green with envy. I spent very little during the pandemic. Plus I’m very frugal in other areas. 😉 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 16, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Ray Proudfoot said: I spent very little during the pandemic. Plus I’m very frugal in other areas. 😉 Not forgetting that you were a Civil servant as well! Intel i7 6700K @4.3. 32gb Gskill 3200 RAM. Z170x Gigabyte m/b. 28" LG HD monitor. Win 10 Home. 500g Samsung 960 as Windows home. 1 Gb Mushkin SSD for P3D. GTX 1080 8gb.
August 16, 20232 yr I recently switched to the other side too, I also went for AMD 7800X3D, I gain 20+ fps compare to my old I9 10900k 👍 Edited August 16, 20232 yr by Ixoye System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
August 16, 20232 yr Author Moderator 31 minutes ago, Ixoye said: I recently switched to the other side too, I also went for AMD 7800X3D, I gain 20+ fps compare to my old I9 10900k 👍 That’s in MSFS I guess. I’m a committed P3D user so speed of core 0 is critical. That’s where the Intel beat the 7950X3D. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 16, 20232 yr I recently got a new computer build: 7800x3d cpu, 670 mb, 7900xt video, 32g 6000 ram, m.2 drives. With all sims, msfs, p3d and xp it works very well. First amd computer in a couple decades plus it was much less pricy than an intel/nvida combination. After a month with it very pleased with it so far.
August 16, 20232 yr For P3D I have little doubt that the 13900K is a better choice. Upgrade to 14900K will also be possible down the road. PC1: AMD Ryzen 9800X3D | Zotac RTX 5090 SOLID | Asus TUF X670E-Plus | G.SKILL 64GB DDR5 PC 6000 CL30 | 4TB NVMe | Noctua NH-D15 | Asus TUF 1000W Gold | be quiet! Pure Base 500DX | Noctua NH-D15S | LG OLED CX 48" + 2x Acer Nitro XV240YP 24" + 2x 15.6" Touch-screen Panels PC2: AMD Ryzen 7500F | Asrock 7900 GRE Challenger OC | Gigabyte B650I AX | Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 CL36 | 1TB NVMe | CM Hyper 212 | Corsair 750W Gold | Lian Li TU150 ITX | SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 49" Winctrl Ursa Minor Sidestick + Ursa Minor 32 Throttle & PAC - Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle - MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - TrackIR - Stream Deck XL + Stream Deck Plus - Winctrl MCDU + 2 MFD's - Meta Quest 3 (VR)
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