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True or false, Avsim experts?

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9 minutes ago, Will273 said:

they catch everything else yet somehow fail to capture a descent video or photo that can be verified.

Is this considered to be a decent video or is it fake? If it is genuine, I would expect a lot more public discussion about it.

 

Dugald Walker

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36 minutes ago, BillW said:

This has been beaten to death. Nobody's mind changed and still no definitive answers. We may never know for sure. The eternal question with no answer.

 

Bill W

I don't mind beating a dead horse sometimes...no one likes to hear someone say UFOs aren't real...I get it. Everyone wants to believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus,  the Tooth Fairy, Big Foot and Ghosts too....oh the humanity!!!

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22 minutes ago, dmwalker said:

Is this considered to be a decent video or is it fake? If it is genuine, I would expect a lot more public discussion about it.

 

Oh please...it's FAKE....let's get a grip here...first off you have to consider the source and these people...it's all coming from the media...where are the crowds of people, where are the other peoples testimony and eye witness accounts...everyday people like you and me...where are they?...nowhere to be found because none of it happened. You have to understand what the media is capable of and how they can steer the public in any direction they want and try to make them believe anything...whatever suits their agenda at the time. Didn't watch the whole video but am wondering "who" exactly happened to be in the area with an expensive video camera at the same time this "thing" happened to fly over...funny they were both there at the same time...how convenient. My question is: If you were being lied to...would you want to know?

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27 minutes ago, dmwalker said:

Is this considered to be a decent video or is it fake? If it is genuine, I would expect a lot more public discussion about it.

 

Also if this was real...there would be more people involved...the Military and Police and other Officials would be at the scene and this would be Front Page Headline Breaking News and not some article tucked away at the bottom. The Governement would use the EBS...Emergency Broadcast System and interrupt everything on TV yet this barely makes the news for one day....good luck with that.

40 minutes ago, dmwalker said:

Is this considered to be a decent video or is it fake? If it is genuine, I would expect a lot more public discussion about it.

 

If you really wanted to investigate...try investigating  where all this originates...the News agencies, the reporters, times and locations, actual witnesses, etc. I'd bet the more you investigate and closer to the sources you get...things will get more blurry, fuzzy and gray and when you get almost right on top of things...everything will mysteriously disappear and vanish....as if it was never there and never happened.

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2 hours ago, Will273 said:

All well and good but still no evidence...

 

Well yes, but you said there should be multiple witness incidents, so I was just pointing out to you that they do exist.

Interesting regarding the Westall school incident, how the military descended on the school rapidly. 

The teacher, had two  men knock on his door and tell him that if he said anything about it and thought he saw a flying saucer then he was obviosity drunk, and if drunk would be reported and lose his job.

We do indeed have no proof, so all we can do is listen to these people and decide if they sound truthful or not. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, dmwalker said:

Is this considered to be a decent video or is it fake?

 

No, no! 😁 That's just computer imagery.

That was the Rendelsham forest incident, I remember reading about it in the newspaper at the time. It was a real event, lots of military witnesses. The audio recoding is genuine, made by Lieutenant Colonel Charles Halt, but we still don't know what it was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

The report from Colonel Halt went to the his superiors and to the British Government I recall. 

 

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2 hours ago, Will273 said:

it's all coming from the media...where are the crowds of people, where are the other peoples testimony and eye witness accounts...everyday people like you and me...where are they?

 

No, as I said above, this is the well known Rendelsham forest incident. I've posted the official report from Colonel Halt above.

At one point, whatever it was, was beaming a light down into the weapons storage facility, where its speculated nuclear weapons' were stored. 

There were a number of witnesses to the event. 

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56 minutes ago, martin-w said:

That was the Rendelsham forest incident

The video seems to be describing partly the Rendlesham incident in 1980 and partly the Cosford incident in 1993 with references to RAF Shawbury.

 

Dugald Walker

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9 hours ago, martin-w said:

being utterly vulnerable to being shot down or crashing due to unreliable hardware

Well, that's what happens when you buy the lowest spec'd stuff from Harbor Freight Inter-Gallactic..🤪

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1 hour ago, martin-w said:

 

No, no! 😁 That's just computer imagery.

That was the Rendelsham forest incident, I remember reading about it in the newspaper at the time. It was a real event, lots of military witnesses. The audio recoding is genuine, made by Lieutenant Colonel Charles Halt, but we still don't know what it was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

The report from Colonel Halt went to the his superiors and to the British Government I recall. 

 

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How and why would the Ministry of Defence say it was no threat? How and why would they know anything about it...how could they claim it wasn't a threat if they knew nothing about it...unless they did know something about it? They'd have to know "something" in order to say it wasn't a threat.

1 hour ago, martin-w said:

 

No, as I said above, this is the well known Rendelsham forest incident. I've posted the official report from Colonel Halt above.

At one point, whatever it was, was beaming a light down into the weapons storage facility, where its speculated nuclear weapons' were stored. 

There were a number of witnesses to the event. 

But the Ministry of Defence said it wasn't a threat....funny they'd say that as it's beaming a light on the Nuclear Weapons storage building. If that's true then you might want to have a closer look at your Ministry of Defence.😉

9 minutes ago, Will273 said:

But the Ministry of Defence said it wasn't a threat....funny they'd say that as it's beaming a light on the Nuclear Weapons storage building. If that's true then you might want to have a closer look at your Ministry of Defence.😉

As a sidenote. At the time, I believe the knowledge that the US Military had stationed nuclear weapons at that base (on UK soil) was either secret, or highly controversial (or both), and was not publicly known until well after the incident.  (<< worth a fact-check)

That would have made it a bit complicated for the UK MOD to explain why the incident was considered a threat, if they publicly declared it to be one.

DB

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3 minutes ago, DaviiB said:

As a sidenote. At the time, I believe the knowledge that the US Military had stationed nuclear weapons at that base (on UK soil) was either secret, or highly controversial, and was not publicly known until well after the incident.  (<< worth a fact-check)

That would have made it a bit complicated for the UK MOD to explain why the incident was considered a threat, if they publicly declared it to be one.

DB

In the Wiki Link the OP inserted it said the MOD said it was NO threat...how would they know?

1 minute ago, Will273 said:

In the Wiki Link the OP inserted it said the MOD said it was NO threat...how would they know?

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. How would they know what?  Whether or not it was a threat?

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