What do you think chaps, is this guy telling the truth or not?

 

 

According to Ryan Graves, pilots are seeing things on a nighly basis over the Northern Pacific and Northern Atlantic.

 

 

I am skeptical but not for any logical reason. I was put off by his demeanour and his tendency to exaggerate. Also, he would have more credibility if he had actually been in that covert programme which he had never heard of.

The question will be: what is the quality of the information in the documents provided by “plenty of current former senior intelligence officers that came to me”?

This is actually breaking wide in serious media circles and they are confirming his story by corroborating It thru other senior intelligence officials. 
 

Not sure what to make of it yet but I never though I’d live to see the day when serious NY Times reporters were writing about aliens. 

Edited June 6, 20232 yr by Jacoba

I'm going to submit a FOIA request see what happens 🤔

I'm deeply skeptical for many reasons. I don't dismiss the possibility of our own kind from what we consider our own chronological future but are in fact, if we had a proper understanding of space and time and objects as being subjective rather than being some reality external to our interception of it. Likewise an account of a ghost from a credible witness has to be taken seriously. Perhaps it's a hallucination! But then more than one credible witness relates the same details! There are ways and means to discredit multiple corroborated eye witness accounts of anomalous events. Once those have been exhausted, one is compelled to believe without explanation. The difference with this is the tantalizing prospect of artifacts, in theory for all to see. It's just like someone saying, 'I saw an ancient Egyptian in the park' and they gave me this item and the item was verified by archaeologist as being authentic but then the carbon dating showed that it was only 5 years old. I'll watch this closely. But in the back of my mind I cant help thinking Alex Jones was Right since he did say that the New World Order would fake an Alien Invasion to push their Globalist Agenda. Who Knows?🤪

Edited June 7, 20232 yr by FBW737

Interestingly, the department of defence allowed him to talk. 

 

Edited June 7, 20232 yr by martin-w

9 hours ago, dmwalker said:

I am skeptical but not for any logical reason. I was put off by his demeanour 

 

I felt the same.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/david-charles-grusch-interview-ufo-whistleblower-b2352884.html

Karl E. Nell, a recently retired Army Colonel and current aerospace executive who was the Army’s liaison for the UAP Task Force from 2021 to 2022 and worked with Grusch there, characterizes Grusch as “beyond reproach.”

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

 

Edited June 7, 20232 yr by martin-w

Okay, I'm calling BS.

Just watched a body language experts analysis and it wasn't very positive.

I'm still not a fan of this "crashed alien spaceship" stuff to be honest. To me its an oxymoron. A spaceship with hyper advanced technology, thousands of years or more in advance of our own, capable of traveling at relativistic velocities, or even from another dimension, doesn't suddenly crash when it encounters our puny atmosphere. I could believe one, but these claims would have us believe they crash in droves, and there are numerous examples in the militaries possession. To me its illogical nonsense.

And this guy below hits the nail on the head regarding the stories red flags.

 

 

Edited June 7, 20232 yr by martin-w

He is getting his 15 minutes of fame.

28 minutes ago, stans said:

He is getting his 15 minutes of fame.

 

Worth considering that there's money to be made out of this stuff. Not something that can be proven, but worth consideration. 

Edited June 7, 20232 yr by martin-w

It's depressing to read the Youtube comments accompanying this video.

4 hours ago, martin-w said:

And this guy below hits the nail on the head regarding the stories red flags.

 

 

 

Edited June 7, 20232 yr by dmwalker

1 hour ago, dmwalker said:

It's depressing to read the Youtube comments accompanying this video.

 

Yeah, people are so gullible. Even when you show them evidence against, they claim its positive evidence for. 🤔

Also, if Grusch knowingly gave false statements or information to the IG he’s no longer considered a whistleblower and can be convicted under 18 U.S.C. § 1001

Grusch attorney certainly made him aware of this before he filed the complaint.

17 hours ago, martin-w said:

 

I felt the same.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/david-charles-grusch-interview-ufo-whistleblower-b2352884.html

Karl E. Nell, a recently retired Army Colonel and current aerospace executive who was the Army’s liaison for the UAP Task Force from 2021 to 2022 and worked with Grusch there, characterizes Grusch as “beyond reproach.”

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

 

I always wonder about things like what this guy is doing.

1. Maybe he’s involved with the CIA doing sometime or psych op.

2. Why would someone with his prior credentials come out and put himself in the spotlight, whether his info is true or false, he’ll no doubt be subject to harassment.

3. Perhaps there’s some truth and the govt is trying a slow drip approach to see how the general public reacts?

One thing I will say, is that it’s hard to trust anyone these days, especially in the gov’t. I know some people put their full trust in the govt  and govt officials, but when a lot of them, ranging from politicians to CIA official lying to Congress and lying on national TV about various things, it make them very hard to believe. 

Claims like these have been going on since Roswell. Ben Rich Skunk Works fame had made claims similar to this. Again, a guy like Ben Rick working on programs like he did, why would he want to tarnish his reputation talking about stuff like that.

I suppose in the end, until a large UFO parks itself over the middle of a large metropolitan area for the world to see, we’ll probably never know the truth unless we witness it for ourselves. It is interesting to see what these guys say, even if it’s not true.