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With all the technology spent on finding Life on other planets...all the money, telescopes, etc...you'd think they could detect a UFO that's already here...how would it not be detected long before it arrived...did it cloak itself and become a undetected Stealth UFO?

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3 minutes ago, DaviiB said:

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. How would they know what?  Whether or not it was a threat?

Yes exactly...maybe I misunderstood what you said...sorry if I did.

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5 minutes ago, Will273 said:

In the Wiki Link the OP inserted it said the MOD said it was NO threat...how would they know?

Well, if the MOD believed that there was no UFO, then they'd be correct in stating that there was NO threat...

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1 minute ago, n4gix said:

Well, if the MOD believed that there was no UFO, then they'd be correct in stating that there was NO threat...

Ahhh yes...now it makes sense...must have forgot that part...thanks very much!

8 minutes ago, Will273 said:

the MOD said it was NO threat.

Standard statement to avoid public unrest.

Dugald Walker

Just now, dmwalker said:

Standard statement to avoid public unrest.

Very true and if there was a threat I think we would know about it. 

4 hours ago, Will273 said:

I don't mind beating a dead horse sometimes...no one likes to hear someone say UFOs aren't real...I get it. Everyone wants to believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus,  the Tooth Fairy, Big Foot and Ghosts too....oh the humanity!!!

I said nobody knows.and we may never know.  It is a never ending quest. You reading it into anything else is your speculation.

Bill W

2 minutes ago, Will273 said:

With all the technology spent on finding Life on other planets...all the money, telescopes, etc...you'd think they could detect a UFO that's already here...how would it not be detected long before it arrived...did it cloak itself and become a undetected Stealth UFO?

I think you're giving a bit too much credit to civilian and military abilities to "watch the skies".

We (collectively) are not spending very much money, or effort to find life on other planets. Even in 2023, NORAD admitted that their radar coverage over the continental US was filtered to exclude targets that didn't fit particular profiles. i.e. They're looking for conventional aircraft and missiles. Other (potentially anomalous) objects are / were filtered out.

If that is the case today, I imagine a similar, but even less capable / sophisticated system existed in 1980.

Civilian radars are even less capable, and increasingly rely on transponder / ADSB data, rather than primary radar returns.

Even then, there are enough reports of objects appearing and disappearing off radar, with corroborative visual sightings to infer some sort of ability like you describe. Without someone to explain how it works, we're left with observations, of which there are quite a few from experienced, qualified observers.

You're asking for an explanation of how it's possible. All you'll get is "I have no idea, but that's what happened".

 

DB

2 minutes ago, BillW said:

I said nobody knows.and we may never know.  It is a never ending quest. You reading it into anything else is your speculation.

Bill W

To me there's nothing to read into this except speculation...for the most part.

8 minutes ago, Will273 said:

Very true and if there was a threat I think we would know about it. 

Not if it was a threat to a secret nuclear weapons storage site which nobody even knows about.

Dugald Walker

3 minutes ago, DaviiB said:

I think you're giving a bit too much credit to civilian and military abilities to "watch the skies".

We (collectively) are not spending very much money, or effort to find life on other planets. Even in 2023, NORAD admitted that their radar coverage over the continental US was filtered to exclude targets that didn't fit particular profiles. i.e. They're looking for conventional aircraft and missiles. Other (potentially anomalous) objects are / were filtered out.

If that is the case today, I imagine a similar, but even less capable / sophisticated system existed in 1980.

Civilian radars are even less capable, and increasingly rely on transponder / ADSB data, rather than primary radar returns.

Even then, there are enough reports of objects appearing and disappearing off radar, with corroborative visual sightings to infer some sort of ability like you describe. Without someone to explain how it works, we're left with observations, of which there are quite a few from experienced, qualified observers.

You're asking for an explanation of how it's possible. All you'll get is "I have no idea, but that's what happened".

 

DB

Well they keep a pretty good eye on meteors and astroids and other things like stars, galaxies, etc...and why aren't these local UFOs caught on ATC...you'd think they would pick them up.

9 minutes ago, Will273 said:

why aren't these local UFOs caught on ATC...you'd think they would pick them up.

You already answered the question. I think some small progress is being made in the visible light  range so it's reasonable to think that something could be developed for other wavelengths.

27 minutes ago, Will273 said:

how would it not be detected long before it arrived...did it cloak itself and become a undetected Stealth UFO?

 

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Dugald Walker

 

5 minutes ago, Will273 said:

Well they keep a pretty good eye on meteors and astroids and other things like stars, galaxies, etc

Very different objects / phenomena. And no, we don't keep a good eye on meteors / asteroids. Run a google search for the actual percentage of "the sky" that is monitored. I believe the number is quite low.

 

7 minutes ago, Will273 said:

why aren't these local UFOs caught on ATC...you'd think they would pick them up.

You'd have to know exactly what they were to answer that question. 

Also, as mentioned before, sometimes they are picked up, sometimes not.  I'm also not convinced you'd always hear about it if they were. 

Just now, dmwalker said:

You already answered the question.

 

I get so turned around with this stuff I can't think straight. Keep in mind though...as fun as this and all future reports of eye witness accounts are...we still haven't seen any evidence and proof...and eye witness accounts don't count without evidence and proof...I have my doubts about most of the witnesses and don't trust the media at all.

7 minutes ago, DaviiB said:

 

Very different objects / phenomena. And no, we don't keep a good eye on meteors / asteroids. Run a google search for the actual percentage of "the sky" that is monitored. I believe the number is quite low.

 

You'd have to know exactly what they were to answer that question. 

Also, as mentioned before, sometimes they are picked up, sometimes not.  I'm also not convinced you'd always hear about it if they were. 

I don't trust Google very much and Mr Google works for George Soros...sorry to bring politics into this but it's all connected. Science and the Military are more advanced than we think they are. 

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