On 6/9/2023 at 12:19 AM, cmpbellsjc said:

I wouldn’t eat it, you never know where it’s been 😂😂😂

Kidding aside, I wouldn’t eat something humanoid looking, especially coming from somewhere else in the universe. I wouldn’t even try anything in the ape family since it’s too close looking to humans.

 

We probably taste horrible, especially if they samples Americans due  two eyes like ours.  to us being filled with artificial preservatives and fillers. If I was them, I’d first sample a European, at least their diet is a bit cleaner than ours.

An alien would look nothing like humans.  we look like what we are due to our gravity, atmosphere composition, atmospheric pressure, radiation, temperatures, 300 million years of evolution, or a God who made us in his own image.  I doubt they will have 2 arms and two legs with a head and two eyes like ours.  With a mouth nose and eyes positioned like ours.  Simply impossible.  I do know their flight sim community would not have to wait 3 years for a new version of a UFO to come out.

Edited July 6, 20232 yr by paulyg123

1 hour ago, paulyg123 said:

An alien would look nothing like humans.  we look like what we are due to our gravity, atmosphere composition, atmospheric pressure, radiation, temperatures, 300 million years of evolution, or a God who made us in his own image.

There could be billions of earth-like planets in our galaxy alone, where humanoid development would be similar and, presumably, God would have made them in his own image, too. At least they would have "hands" with opposable "thumbs" so they could make stuff, or maybe they have opposable tentacles.

15 hours ago, martin-w said:

David Fravor is on the Merged podcast with Ryan Graves.

 

Apologies for podcast, it was pretty uninteresting. Not to mention disappointing that Favor, Mr. Top Gun pilot, seems top be gullible enough to believe the Lazar stuff that's been debunked countless times. 

19 hours ago, DaviiB said:

The overwhelming majority of cellphones and cellphone cameras are not nearly that capable.

 

They are you know. My S21 Ultra is way out of date. The S23 is available now with an even better camera. Even pretty basic phones have good cameras these days, certainly capable of imaging decently at the 200 feet you mentioned.  Lots of individuals have high end phones these days. There are millions of them in the wild. Average cell phone value in the US is $700, people spend money on their phones. And that's just the average, many more will have more expensive phones. 

20 hours ago, DaviiB said:

You're assuming that's what happened

 

Well yes, obviously everything we are debating is assumption and speculation.

 

20 hours ago, DaviiB said:

We have a datapoint to put that in doubt (the alleged extremely quick turnaround of the request).

There's lots of information out there about people complaining that their simple requests are taking months to be replied to

 

If a request comes in for something pretty mundane, its obviously not going to be given priority. However, if they suddenly get a request to go public with mind-blowing stuff like multiple crashed alien spacecraft, dead aliens, conspiracy to hide it from Congress, dodgy deals with alien's, conspiring with aliens and killing people to hide it (as claimed by Grusch)  then obviously they are going to freak out and grant it maximum priority, and thus, if they aren't read in, then  pass it up the chain to higher ranking superiors.

They are obviously going to deal with utterly profound stuff with priority and alacrity. A greater priority than Corporal Bill who wants to talk to the media about his ill fitting boots. And if DOPSR or anyone they may have passed this up the chain to were already aware that the claims weren't valid, there would be no delay involved. 

Obviously, everything we are arguing about is speculation and assumption. 

 

20 hours ago, DaviiB said:

No, of course not. hence my point that something seems off.

 

Everything seems off to be honest. Multiple crashed alien ships. Dead alien bodies. Secret government bodes working outside the law and tracking down crashed alien spaceships, like something from a science fiction show, secret deals with aliens, killing people to cover it up. Its either a mind-blowingly weird world we know live in or its a pile of doggy poo designed to distract from something else. Or some of it is partially true and the rest exaggeration.  

Edited July 6, 20232 yr by martin-w

2 hours ago, paulyg123 said:

Highly doubtful aliens came here.  You’d need to travel many times faster than the speed of light to get anywhere.  Plus no creatures can survive the acceleration needed to get up to that speed and to decelerate to land.  

 

Well, witnesses like David Fravor and Chad Underwood from the 2004 Nimitz encounter, say they have witnessed what we would deem "physics defying maneuvers". Thus, the extreme acceleration you say would be required to cross the immense void of space is mitigated with some kind of inertial dampening technology. Having said that, you would be surprised how quickly you can achieve relativistic velocities with relatively gentle but constant acceleration.

In addition, Miguel Alcubierre and others have done the research that suggests that "Warp Drive" may indeed be possible. So far, the calculations tell us that we would require negative energy and a huge amount of it but the requirement for such energy has been tweaked down since Alcubierre's paper.

So highly doubtful, yes. But a non-zero possibility that we are or have been visited. 

2 hours ago, paulyg123 said:

An alien would look nothing like humans.

 

Most likely yes.

However, there is a principle in evolutionary biology called "convergent evolution" where, when faced with the same selective evolutionary pressures, evolution makes the same choices. Eyes for example have evolved multiple times independently. So don't be surprised if there are aliens out there that are closer to the way humans appear than you think possible. 

20 hours ago, DaviiB said:

So which is it?

 - Are the admissions from David Grusch and the resulting congressional actions / inquiry a psyop?

 - Or is the story being suppressed? (implying at least some of it is true)

 

Which narrative are "they" trying to get the public to believe?

Without any proof I don't believe any of it...distraction as far as I'm concerned but they did get your attention and sounds like they're reeling you in....hook line and sinker.

Edited July 6, 20232 yr by Will273

6 hours ago, paulyg123 said:

An alien would look nothing like humans

I expect alien lifeforms would all begin their evolution like us from a single celled organism but with different chemistries.

On 7/6/2023 at 9:57 AM, Will273 said:

Without any proof I don't believe any of it...distraction as far as I'm concerned but they did get your attention and sounds like they're reeling you in....hook line and sinker.

There's a sizeable pile of evidence and information on this topic that doesn't involve the government or mainstream media. 

DB

On 7/6/2023 at 5:38 AM, paulyg123 said:

An alien would look nothing like humans.  we look like what we are due to our gravity, atmosphere composition, atmospheric pressure, radiation, temperatures, 300 million years of evolution, or a God who made us in his own image.  I doubt they will have 2 arms and two legs with a head and two eyes like ours.  With a mouth nose and eyes positioned like ours.  Simply impossible.  I do know their flight sim community would not have to wait 3 years for a new version of a UFO to come out.

I don’t care what it looked like, I still wouldn’t eat it 😂😂 Someone else can try and tell me if it was tasty or that they ended up getting food poisoning and a terrible case of cosmic flatulence 🤢

11 hours ago, cmpbellsjc said:

I don’t care what it looked like, I still wouldn’t eat it 😂😂 Someone else can try and tell me if it was tasty or that they ended up getting food poisoning and a terrible case of cosmic flatulence 🤢

Cosmic flatulence... is that what causes solar wind? 😂

14 hours ago, DaviiB said:

There's a sizeable pile of evidence and information on this topic that doesn't involve the government or mainstream media. 

DB

Yes there is and to me it's even less credible that what comes from the government and the news media. Who are these witnesses...I looked some of them up on wikipedia and other places and could find NOTHING on them except for their UFO stuff...no personal history, education, politics, no back ground history at all so there's no telling if they have an agenda they're trying to push or not....there are many people like this that do contribute to and have an agenda they support but can't say for certain it's true with these guys. All I know is they have no back ground to check in order to find out....how covenient.

We're supposed to trust our Politicians and media yet they have proven time and again they can NOT and should NOT be trusted...that's a fact. So why would anyone trust these "witnesses" who have no back ground to check and verify...what are they into...there's nothing about any of these witnesses other than what they babble off about UFOs...not very credible to me and a bit suspicious so to me they carry less weight than our politicians. There's more information about the UFOs they report than there is on these people themselves...let that sink in.

Oh...why isn't there a "like" button when I post a reply...has mine been deleted....something I said?👽

Edited July 8, 20232 yr by Will273

38 minutes ago, Will273 said:

We're supposed to trust our Politicians and media yet they have proven time and again they can NOT and should NOT be trusted...that's a fact. So why would anyone trust these "witnesses" who have no back ground to check and verify...what are they into...there's nothing about any of these witnesses other than what they babble off about UFOs...not very credible to me and a bit suspicious so to me they carry less weight than our politicians. There's more information about the UFOs they report than there is on these people themselves...let that sink in.

So, whom do you trust? I think the only folks left are the scientists.

45 minutes ago, Will273 said:

Oh...why isn't there a "like" button when I post a reply...has mine been deleted....something I said?👽

You don't see your own like button when you are logged in unless someone has "liked" you. You should be able to see it when you are logged off.