June 7, 20233 yr Ok, first an apology, this will be a bit of a rant, but im finding myself getting less and less interested in this sim by the day. To cut a long story short, I have this on both PC and Xbox but due to time downstairs ive been flying more on xbox lately. Before the last World Update I thought it had generally improved. Ive not picked it up in about a month or so and just decided this week to boot it up again. First off, I had a flight from Bradley Intl to JFK in the default A320. Flight started well, looked ok, live weather was functioning normally, but once I approached New York there were massive LOD issues, not just with photogrammetry but also with the generation of buildings. Whole banks of buildings flat and missing, very short LOD distance, could not even see JFK even though I was less than 10NMs out. Stopped the flight. Booted it up yesterday and to see if it was improved, plopped my A320 just short of LaGuardia and New York was there, Lod was a bit better but not much. Flew hamburg to Karstrup yesterday, fields and trees looked terrible, really low quality, pixellated and that super harsh bing map shadow. Turned it off again. Just now flew Farnborough to White Waltham, low and slow, one of my favourite little routes, one ive done multiple over the years on xbox and PC and my goodness the ground textures where horrific. over saturated, hard shadows, had to turn off. Tried rebooting, tried turning on/off online services, rebooted router, no change. I noticed in the world map, whole sections of the map around Farnborough seems to have been changed by bing, its like theres two maps overlaid and it causes a double shadow of sorts, like when two overlaid maps are slightly out with each other. Ive also noticed popping tiles, tiles in the see, changing tiles over Malta, Nice and Monterrey. What the hell have they done to this sim? Its absolutely destroying the immersion, the maps and the tech is the star of the show here and its gradually getting worse and worse. Im just abut to boot it on my high end machine but im not holding out much hope. And its not like it cant run well because it certainly has been epic in the past. Is it the servers? is it the updates? Are they ever going to sort these issues? Edited June 7, 20233 yr by Ant1975uk
June 7, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Ant1975uk said: its gradually getting worse and worse No such thing on my system.
June 7, 20233 yr Author 2 minutes ago, crimplene said: No such thing on my system. Well its just asked me to insert the disc on PC! I never bought a disc!
June 7, 20233 yr I agree the LOD issue is a problem....there's a bunch of threads over on the official forums pointing out the regression over time....some of the videos posted there are quite telling in terms of objects popping. It's similar to what we used to see in P3D but I've only recently started noticing it in MSFS Kael Oswald 9950X3D/ 64GB DDR5 6200 @ CL30 / Custom Water Loop / RTX 5090 / 3 x 48" LG C4 OLEDs
June 7, 20233 yr Commercial Member It would seem that your settings changed inadvertently, you should check them. As @crimplene said, no such a thing in my system.
June 7, 20233 yr Just now, KL Oo said: I agree the LOD issue is a problem....there's a bunch of threads over on the official forums pointing out the regression over time....some of the videos posted there are quite telling in terms of objects popping. It's similar to what we used to see in P3D but I've only recently started noticing it in MSFS LOD started to degrade a few months after release. I don't see a huge difference of the past few months. Its been word not allowed for a long time.
June 7, 20233 yr The real question might be "what have you done to this sim " ? Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
June 7, 20233 yr 6 minutes ago, Dominique_K said: The real question might be "what have you done to this sim " ? This. The title should be "What have I done to my sim". To the OP, have you used the Google maps mod before? Edited June 7, 20233 yr by Alvega Alvega CPU: AMD 7800X3D | COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240L Core ARGB | GPU: RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB OC | Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI |RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000MHz PC5-48000 2x16GB CL36 | SSDs: WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe SSD (WIN11), WD Black SN850X SSD 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe (MSFS), Crucial MX500 2TB (Other stuff) | CASE: Forgeon Arcanite ARGB Mesh Tower ATX White | Power Supply: Forgeon Bolt PSU 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular White
June 7, 20233 yr Author 4 minutes ago, Alvega said: This. The title should be "What have I done to my sim". To the OP, have you used the Google maps mod before? So as I stated in my post Ive been using Xbox Series X recently. I have just put it on PC and loaded in the same flight. Admittedly its not as bad as Xbox, maybe a little washed out and of course I can bump up the settings. But theres definitely some downgrade happening. have Asobo toned stuff down to get third party stuff working properly on xbox and save memory? I mean they got the PMDG on there now...
June 7, 20233 yr Author 14 minutes ago, KL Oo said: I agree the LOD issue is a problem....there's a bunch of threads over on the official forums pointing out the regression over time....some of the videos posted there are quite telling in terms of objects popping. It's similar to what we used to see in P3D but I've only recently started noticing it in MSFS Theres definitely issues. My job in the day to day is to test stuff so I notice things!
June 7, 20233 yr No complaints here. Must be on a different server. 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
June 7, 20233 yr 22 minutes ago, Ant1975uk said: Well its just asked me to insert the disc on PC! I never bought a disc! Same. First time that ever happened for me yesterday. Ryzen 5800X3D | X570 Aorus Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 CL16 | RX 6800 | 500GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus | 2TB Crucial P3 | RM650x | Creative Sound Blaster AE-5 | NZXT S340 Elite | MSI 34" 3440x1440 100Hz
June 7, 20233 yr Did a flight yesterday from Vancouver to Hamburg and I noticed that the terrain looked awful after departing Vancouver. I've done plenty flights up there to know how good it can look. Internet connection was good from my side, and I made sure to check that the in-game settings didn't change. The Asobo/MS servers seem to be some of the crappiest around for online gaming because I have also noticed it getting worse and worse. Perhaps it depends which server we connect to. I'm usually on the Western Europe server. Ryzen 5800X3D | X570 Aorus Pro | 32GB DDR4-3600 CL16 | RX 6800 | 500GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus | 2TB Crucial P3 | RM650x | Creative Sound Blaster AE-5 | NZXT S340 Elite | MSI 34" 3440x1440 100Hz
June 7, 20233 yr 12 minutes ago, Ant1975uk said: Theres definitely issues. My job in the day to day is to test stuff so I notice things! Make sure you have "Online functionality" and "Bing data world graphics" turned ON in the sim options. Never happened to me but some people have reported that they can turn off after a sim update. Alvega CPU: AMD 7800X3D | COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240L Core ARGB | GPU: RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB OC | Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI |RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000MHz PC5-48000 2x16GB CL36 | SSDs: WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe SSD (WIN11), WD Black SN850X SSD 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe (MSFS), Crucial MX500 2TB (Other stuff) | CASE: Forgeon Arcanite ARGB Mesh Tower ATX White | Power Supply: Forgeon Bolt PSU 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular White
June 7, 20233 yr I'm using MFS in the system whose base description is in my sig, so PC / Win11 install is the only experience I have. For the level of detail it's by far the best performing flight simulator I have tried in this rig. I never bought Aerofly FS4, and it's possible that I could experience even smother results there, but it doesn't compare in terms of the amount of features being simulated. My other comparison is XP12, where although I can't complain because I am not after the ultra smooth display, I get stutters like I don't experience in MFS, and the level of detail is considerably inferior scenery and weather rendering wise, not to count AI traffic, ATC, Navigraph interface and complex addons like the Fenix A320 and the PMDG 737. My settings aren't at the extreme in MFS, but they're high. I am on DX11, because of some addons, but also had a great experience with DX12. So, I think you should really try to find what settings you could fine tune in order to get a better performance. Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
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