14 minutes ago, nikolajz1 said:

Fully for supporting Asobo and I expect mods to be backward compatible although I fully expect most devs will charge extra for upgrading which will be annoying. PMDG 100 percent will charge a ton of money to bring their stuff over.

Personally think that is wishful thinking.

It is not normal to release a new game in a franchise and let people use all the previous DLC, addons expansions etcetera.  It just makes no sense.

Whilst it is vaguely possible aircraft might be importable in the same way FSX aircraft will work in MSFS2020 with a lot of tweaking - it seems unlikely that scenery and airports will work given all the game changes in the scenery department.

This new sim will be amazing - but do not expect to just copy across your community folder.

well some of the landmarks and one of the airports in the trailer already exist in 2020. Either by default or from World Updates.

Edited June 12, 20233 yr by Tuskin38

1 minute ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Personally think that is wishful thinking.

It is not normal to release a new game in a franchise and let people use all the previous DLC, addons expansions etcetera.  It just makes no sense.

Whilst it is vaguely possible aircraft might be importable in the same way FSX aircraft will work in MSFS2020 with a lot of tweaking - it seems unlikely that scenery and airports will work given all the game changes in the scenery department.

This new sim will be amazing - but do not expect to just copy across your community folder.

To me the engine looks pretty unchanged just looks like custom scenery for the missions like we have now and had back in FSX, look at the clouds they look the same, lighting looks the same ect.

1 minute ago, z06z33 said:

look at the clouds they look the same, lighting looks the same ect.

You're not going to get bottoms of clouds this dark in MSFS right now

Having recently gone through this with Prepar3D v4 to v5 and X-Plane v11 to v12, we're looking at an evolutionary upgrade to the NEXT major version of the same simulator (i'm intentionally avoiding the word, "new").

IMHO, MS is intentionally emphasizing "All New!" because they intend to charge for this upgrade, unlike all the previous ones.

With Prepar3D, many of the High Fidelity aircraft needed but a tweak to the installer (e.g., PMDG 737) for the "All New Sim!". Some, like A2A Sims were, literally, a copy/paste install. Similar for Carenado, etc.

MilViz (BlackBird) fared much worse because, apparently, of extensive non-standard code they had running underneath. Took them many months to release compatibility updates. Some were free, some were paid, and some of their addons were NEVER updated (still pretty ticked off about that one...).

In X-Plane v11 to v12, very much the same story. Most aircraft addons needed updates (particularly to the significantly enhanced Flight Model), etc.

Most of the devs released free or very low cost updates. A very few charged significant fees or even full price. 

And most of us were very willing to fork out another $60 for the base simulator - all expected, etc.

As said previously, MS/Asobo are not going to toss the baby out with the bathwater with this Next Version by killing the 2020 ecosystem.

After 4 years, and as long as the base simulator is improved beyond mission packs (pretty sure this will prove to be the case), I'm very willing to hand MS/Asobo another chunk of cash just like I do with Laminar Research and Lockheed Martin every few years.

5 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

You're not going to get bottoms of clouds this dark in MSFS right now

Not the same time of day but looks pretty close

Edited June 12, 20233 yr by z06z33

8 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Personally think that is wishful thinking.

It is not normal to release a new game in a franchise and let people use all the previous DLC, addons expansions etcetera.  It just makes no sense.

Whilst it is vaguely possible aircraft might be importable in the same way FSX aircraft will work in MSFS2020 with a lot of tweaking - it seems unlikely that scenery and airports will work given all the game changes in the scenery department.

This new sim will be amazing - but do not expect to just copy across your community folder.

The evidence is overwhelmingly against you.

5 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

The evidence is overwhelmingly against you.

There's zero evidence for both your sides. Neither asobo or microsoft have released an official word on the matter yet.

I'm honestly expecting more info on Tuesday during the Extended X-Box Game Conference and at FSExpo.

Edited June 12, 20233 yr by Tuskin38

4 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

There's zero evidence for both your sides. Neither asobo or microsoft have released an official word on the matter yet.

I'm honestly expecting more info on Tuesday during the Extended X-Box Game Conference and at FSExpo.

History is on my side. See my post above.

9 hours ago, Sethos said:

100% it'll just be part of the continual update process, i.e live service that the sim is.

I sure hope so.  I thought they were past this business of MSFS 2020 etc.  I thought it was just MSFS now.  Didn't Jorg even make a remark early-on that he envisioned providing inclusive update support for at least a decade?  I'm done with buying a new sim platform every couple of years the way they used to do it.  The add-ons are just too expensive now for that to be practical.

Edited June 12, 20233 yr by Avwriter

56 minutes ago, Krakin said:

Yeah, because a 2 minute trailer is going tell you everything the new sim is going to offer...

Without further information, his comment seems reasonable. People likely will be less inclined to purchase addons until they know for sure that they will work in the next sim/version/whatever it is. Personally, I would assume they will work but that is ultimately something that will need to be confirmed.

5 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

History is on my side. See my post above.

It's all speculation until Asobo/Microsoft say something.

Edited June 12, 20233 yr by Tuskin38

Apologies if this has already been mentioned:

1. If this "new" sim isn't fully backward compatible with current add-ons, they just killed the current add-on market overnight (including their Marketplace). It would be a serious slap in the face of 3rd party devs and their users and would not bode well for the "new" sim.

2. I can't see them "supporting" two separate platforms (server infrastructure, bug fixes etc.). That would be a premature end of the "10 year journey".

Given the above I'd guess that 2024 is a (paid) expansion, with new features etc., which I'd happily support. Then again, with MS you never know. It's not like they haven't shot themselves in their foot before...

I'll just say that if anyone thinks they're going to simply reset the sim and launch a completely separate one without full compatibility with literally every aircraft and airport released so far, they are completely clueless and they haven't learned a thing about how Microsoft operates in the three years since the release of Microsoft Flight Simulator.

I'm actually amazed that someone would seriously think that,and I'm inclined to believe that some are simply intentionally spreading FUD. 

Edited June 12, 20233 yr by Abriael

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