June 13, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, simbol said: Now in a serious discussion, although I heard Jorg saying it on QA's.. is it not truth most people assumed MSFS was going to stay on same version for 10 years, rather than, Flight Simulator will keep been developed for 10 years? I think this is a case of self assumptions, the 10 year commitment is ongoing.. here you have more new shinny flight simulatior coming to your door. And this time they are telling you, previous add-on's are compatible. Is not that proof they still committed with the project and keep pushing it forward?. Indeed. They just proved their long time commitment in flightsimulation by announcing the next iteration. To claim they broke their promise of a ten years project is just absurd.
June 13, 20232 yr 59 minutes ago, simbol said: the implication that MP products just works, it means there is no fundamental core changes to prevent you putting your community folder and get things moving.. certain things might need update, but this occurs even today when a SU is released and we 3rd party devs have to rush to fix stuff and release updates. Is business as usual, we update after each SUX.. we update after each AAUX.. now we will update after MS2024.. nothing to see here, is our life as 3rd party devs. S. Now this would have been a good post to end this thread of useless hyperbole and drama.
June 13, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said: People bought those addons for FS2020, didn't they? Those addons will continue to work on FS2020. Nobody will be forced to buy and transition to the new sim, breaking (possibly) purchased content while doing so. What is the problem exactly? Problem? I thiink i explained myself pretty well in the initial post. AMD Ryzen 7 5800x3d, MSI X570 Pro, 32 gb DDR4 3600 ram, Gigabyte 6800 16gb GPU, 1x 2tb Samsung NvMe , 1x 2tb Sabrent NvME, 1x Crucial 4tb Nvme M2 Drive
June 13, 20232 yr 33 minutes ago, simbol said: buy XP12 or go back to P3D 5.4.. Would rather poke my eyes out with hot poker sticks.
June 13, 20232 yr 42 minutes ago, ErichB said: The addons you purchase for 2020 will still work in 2020. The addons you purchase next year made for 2020 will also work in 2020 LOL You forgot to mention that all these Addons made for MSFS 2020 still work after 10 years in MSFS 2020…. 🥳 - - - What I do hope is that they also keep the evolving the multi monitor support and the SDK for cockpitbuilders. A lot of added missions are fine, but don’t forget the study level ac users Edited June 13, 20232 yr by GSalden 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
June 13, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, odourboy said: think you're more right than wrong. The 'career' orientation means ATC, flight dynamics, scenery servers will be of secondary importance. Wrong. It’s already been confirmed that flight dynamics have been improved. and missions aren’t just for ‘gamers’. And we can see scenery improvements in the trailer. The people making the missions wouldn’t be the same programmers working on flight dynamics and physics. Those are different specialists. Edited June 13, 20232 yr by Tuskin38
June 13, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Sunshine13 said: now it seems that flight simulator has become a GAME Nope, FSX had missions/challenges too. Edited June 13, 20232 yr by Tuskin38
June 13, 20232 yr 40 minutes ago, simbol said: Now in a serious discussion, No company in its right mind would commit itself for 10 years for such a project. But, in marketing like in politics, when you say something, you do not control what follows. This 10-year thing has been repeated ad nauseam and magnified by the f-boy community (MSFS worst enemies 😁 ). About the hate thing. The only reasons they'd abandon 'the title' are mediocre revenues and profit performance below par and an insufficient contribution to the Game Pass program. What the users can think of FS24, frankly I think they don't care. Also if f MS abandoned a product because of bad vibes coming back from the users we would, Heaven forbid, be all on Linux or MacOs. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
June 13, 20232 yr Moderator : isn’t it an idea to put all threads regarding MSFS 2024 in a seperate forum section ? 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
June 13, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Sunshine13 said: Where is that 10 year commitment we always heard about???? This is part of that commitment. They never said 10 years for 2020, they said for the platform. This is an expansion of the platform
June 13, 20232 yr 45 minutes ago, RALF9636 said: Now this would have been a good post to end this thread of useless hyperbole and drama. Sweeping the dust under the carpet is never a good idea. What do you mind in having this thread open ? How does it hurt you ? The only way to defuse what you call hyperbole and drama is discussion. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
June 13, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Car147 said: but what about the 1000's bought from outside the marketplace The Q&A said all addons not just those in the marketplace
June 13, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said: People bought those addons for FS2020, didn't they? Those addons will continue to work on FS2020. Nobody will be forced to buy and transition to the new sim, breaking (possibly) purchased content while doing so. What is the problem exactly? The problem is that MS/Asobo could stop development for FS2020 in favour of FS2024. While MS/Asobo's commitment for 10 years did not mention versions at all we assumed that it was meant for the same product. As long as all addons work fine in FS2024 I don't think there is a real issue apart from having to spent some extra money. The problem is when addons no longer work; we were lead to believe our addons would be usable in a sim that is in active development for the next decade. Having to stay with MSFS2020 because your addons won't work in the next version means you cannot benefit from a sim that is in active development anymore. Flightsim rig: CPU: AMD 5900x | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant |Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant | Stream Deck XL & Plus | TrackIR 5 Tobii eye tracking
June 13, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, MrFuzzy said: People bought those addons for FS2020, didn't they? Those addons will continue to work on FS2020. Nobody will be forced to buy and transition to the new sim, breaking (possibly) purchased content while doing so. What is the problem exactly? The problem is exactly as you have stated it. Those wishing to use some of the addons they bought did so without the knowledge that, if they wanted to continue to use them, they could only use them in an out of date legacy sim. Or pay again for an updated version.
June 13, 20232 yr Id like to see the devs do a commentary on the trailer. Talking about what it shows.
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