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FS-X Acceleration and the price of add-ons

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I don't want to spoil anything but the Edwards scenery is just packed with cool details.

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I seam to recall that the Reno/Stead scenery looked like well Reno/Stead. It was pretty cool to finally see the valley of speed look like it does in real life.

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Hi, I agree that the price of Acceleration is actually a very good deal for the quality of the work provided. However the reality is this will not bring down the price of add-ons, as developers do not have the mass market to aim for right now.I can only speak for FE and FEX, many months have gone into FEX and we will not break even on development costs for around a year, unless the market improves substantially. This is largely because we are selling into a very small market; the dedicated simmer market.Additionally, the impact of piracy hurts all developers and piracy is sadly rife for addons. In the case of FE, more copies appear to be pirated than actually sold by quite some margin.I say the above to hopefully shed a little light on the cost of addon's from an addon developers viewpoint. It would of course be great if we could sell for less but unfortunately in doing so would render an addon like FEX un-viable financially, I suspect we are not alone in this.Warm regards,Chris Norris

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There's 3 aircraft included but honestly, you really can't compare MS default aircraft to high end addons. They're designed for casual simmers - you're not getting FMCs, advanced ND displays etc...Compare the default Acceleration F/A-18 to this one that's in development for instance: http://www.vrsimulations.com/product_FA18E.htmSo yeah I'd say it's that combined with the economies of scale issue that makes high end addons so much more than even the sim itself. When you've only got a tiny fraction of overall FSX sales moving on and buying your addon, you have to price it higher just to even make up development costs.

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As a developer, I'd be curious to know what people think about what Radiohead is doing with their latest strategy, which basically goes: let the consumer set the price.I personally don't think it would work in FS, but I have to give Thom credit for this new move on Radiohead's part.Bryan

Ryan,That's an awesome looking rendition ... sure to please the hard-core F-18 fanatic. And, the developer is obviously spending some FPS on weapons platforms.When is that due out? Have you had a chance to fly it ingame. I'm wondering with all the complexity (note the gear wells) how it's going to perform?

you really don't want to see Aces establish market pricing...because this will be the one and only addon Aces is planning to do. Once there hasn't been an addon for a very long time, the price will return to what developers need it to be.B

Bryan,Now I'm not saying the action and trend itself is a bad one, it's very good, but here's what I think about Radiohead's latest move:It makes the most pretentious band on the planet with the lamest concert experience I can possibly imagine tied with Phish even more pretentious and lame. It would maybe be cool if they weren't millionaires and just some respected but only semi-popular niche band not looking to expand. If they really wanted to do something for their fans they'd release it unequivocally for free but even then I'd suspect some political or philosophical sanctimoniousness. What a silly and unoriginal statement when there are so many less recognized groups that pratically give away their music and there have been hugely popular taper-friendly or even bootleg-encouraging bands for years-Grateful Dead, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, David Bowie, Nine Inch Nails recently. I just read something about Radiohead's having hinted at the tracklisting for this album "In Rainbows" in codes (then checked their website for them). Seriously, what a bunch of frauds.

With comments like these from the original poster just goes to prove now that ACES is launching their own products it can .......potentially hurt 3rd party developers.Now begins the end of a rich add on world ... potentially.Slowly but surely 3rd party developers will drop out of the loop and seek income in other areas?As pointed out Abacus's similar product has just been greatly devalued. What's next to be devalued? Is there any way 3rd party developers can gain out of this? If they can't gain, then we can't gain?No 3rd party developer can compete with ACES prices due to volumes of sales and the budget they have to work with.The fact is because sales volume for developers are only about %50 what they got for FS9, due to FSX not being that popular, yet, the 3rd party developer needs to charge around twice as much to make the same kind of gross margins.It really depends now on ACES. If this is a one off add on project from them then maybe in the longer run it will help 3rd party developers.Just remember this guys.Without 3rd party developers would you want to continue this hobby.I can see a whole bunch of posts like the original poster here who users ACES pricing and content to set the standard that 3rd party developers MUST MEET.IMO.... Aces are in a hard place. They can't keep the developers and the general public happy as they have changed so much about the vision and marketing of FS. The sad thing is the public need the 3rd party developers.I think over the next few years we'll start to see more freeware again and less 3rd party major releases. A lot less pay ware for sure.Well known developers like Bill Womack have for example made it clear they can't make money in FSX.

Is flight Deck 4 done for???Well, what did "shared cockpit" do to FSNet?Haven't heard much from them lately...Best Regards, Donald T. :-waveFLYing? It's cool. Trillions of birds and insects can't be wrong.

Hi,I do not own FSX (my computer is too lazy ;-) ) But I know for sure that one or some of these additions aren't developed by MS itself, by ex. the P51 which is developed by Sibwings. So some third parties were lucky? cfr. http://forum.sibwings.com/index.phpRegards,Hugo

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