June 23, 20232 yr So Jorg mentioned something interesting at the Flight Sim Expo just a few moments ago. He said Asobo has grown from 100 people to 175 people since MSFS started, and he mentions it's because "flight sim is such a big hit": https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1854043895?t=00h04m44s. Because Jorg is referring to how well flight sim was such a big hit, I assume the photo and the growth of 100 people to 175 people must be referring to the team size for MSFS, and not the number of total employees at Asobo because of course, Asobo has other products and other projects not related to MSFS. I had always expected the MSFS team to shrink over time, because that's typically the pattern for most video games - peak user number for a video game is shortly after its release, and the user base dwindles after. The fact that the MSFS team has grown over this period is counter to what I predicted. But Microsoft must be seeing a lot of good money coming in from MSFS if they are growing the team over the last few years, rather than shrinking the team. Edited June 23, 20232 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
June 23, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, abrams_tank said: I had always expected the MSFS team to shrink over time, because that's typically the pattern for most video games - peak user number for a video game is shortly after its release, and the user base dwindles after. The fact that the MSFS team has grown over this period is counter to what I predicted. That's great news thanks! Something that distinguishes flight sims from other genres is how differently people can and do use the sim. And I think people who use fight sims often use them for decades, versus for a few 100 hours then park the title which is my history with a few games. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
June 23, 20232 yr 35 minutes ago, abrams_tank said: But Microsoft must be seeing a lot of good money coming in from MSFS if they are growing the team over the last few years, rather than shrinking the team I think MSFS is going to be much more than a Flight Simulator. It can be a watercraft simulator, a car simulator, a city simulator, an underwater simulator, a World simulator. Even an Other World simulator (Dune Mod). 10 years seems like only a start, and we’ve gone a heck of a long way already. Amazing days, -B
June 23, 20232 yr Author 5 minutes ago, btacon said: I think MSFS is going to be much more than a Flight Simulator. It can be a watercraft simulator, a car simulator, a city simulator, an underwater simulator, a World simulator. Even an Other World simulator (Dune Mod). 10 years seems like only a start, and we’ve gone a heck of a long way already. Amazing days, -B Definitely. I am pretty sure Microsoft will use the MSFS engine for other applications, including everything you mentioned. Jorg just mentioned how they are using machine learning to improve the terrain in his presentation today. Microsoft is trying to replicate the entire earth in high fidelity and high accuracy and they are getting better and better at it as time progresses. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
June 23, 20232 yr Author 4 minutes ago, Sky_Pilot071 said: Today he said that there are 500 folks working on MSFS 2024. sp I missed that part. Do you have a source for that? Or are you being sarcastic 🤣 i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
June 23, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, abrams_tank said: I missed that part. Do you have a source for that? Or are you being sarcastic 🤣 No, that was the quote during their 2024 bit. Given all what they are doing for 2024, not surprised. MS's commitment and investment into the franchise is very very clear now, and are likely also building a base world/physics simulator platform and technology stack for various applications and entertainment. Can't wait for 2024 and beyond! Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
June 23, 20232 yr If MSFS was the Big Bang of flight simulation, then 2024 is the accelerated expansion of the universe -- i.e., things are moving even faster than we expected. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
June 23, 20232 yr Author 2 minutes ago, lwt1971 said: No, that was the quote during their 2024 bit. Given all what they are doing for 2024, not surprised. MS's commitment and investment into the franchise is very very clear now, and are likely also building a base world/physics simulator platform and technology stack for various applications and entertainment. Can't wait for 2024 and beyond! Ahh, a link for this about the 500 employees would be awesome, if anybody has a direct link for it. But yes, I was always assuming they are going to turn the MSFS engine into a world engine, for use for other applications, such as train simulator, truck simulator, and even more. If they can get the world in very high fidelity, every game company where their game takes place in the modern day and where their game requires modern day scenery, is going to be knocking on Microsoft's door to use their engine. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
June 23, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, abrams_tank said: Ahh, a link for this about the 500 employees would be awesome, if anybody has a direct link for it. https://youtu.be/VPhScg_FINE?t=1202 "Biggest sim ever made, it has over 500 people on it" I think the 175 number is for MSFS 2020 maybe, i.e. Asobo as it was during the 2020 prime years. And these numbers probably include partner teams. Edited June 23, 20232 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
June 23, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, abrams_tank said: I missed that part. Do you have a source for that? Or are you being sarcastic 🤣 he said it, i think he was adding together the Asobo and partner employees
June 23, 20232 yr Author 1 minute ago, lwt1971 said: https://youtu.be/VPhScg_FINE?t=1202 "Biggest sim ever made, it has over 500 people on it" I think the 175 number is for MSFS 2020 maybe. Thanks, this is the link I wanted! Okay, that's very interesting. I do think they have future plans for the MSFS engine then, with 500 people working on it. I am growing more and more confident that Microsoft wants to use this engine for other applications, other than flight simulation. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
June 23, 20232 yr Just now, ShawnG said: he said it, i think he was adding together the Asobo and partner employees Yeah, he’s talking about everyone involved on the Sim. Like the working title guys, they are not from Asobo, but they’ve are working on the sim. 9800X3D@H150i // Msi RTX 5090 Trio OC // 64GB DDR5 6000mhz CL30 // 2TB + 1TB Nvme Dell 27" 2127DGF - 1440p - Gsync - 165hz Thrustmaster TCA Sidestick Airbus // TCA Quadrant Airbus // TFRP T.Flight Rudder Pedals // Logitech Flight Multi Panel
June 23, 20232 yr Author 1 minute ago, ShawnG said: he said it, i think he was adding together the Asobo and partner employees Yep, @lwt1971 posted the link with the source! That's very interesting information! i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
June 23, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, abrams_tank said: Thanks, this is the link I wanted! Okay, that's very interesting. I do think they have future plans for the MSFS engine then, with 500 people working on it. I am growing more and more confident that Microsoft wants to use this engine for other applications, other than flight simulation. Definitely. Microsoft wouldn’t put this much people just for a Flight Simulator. Also, there’s a lot of potential to be explored in there. I’ve seen potential for a Truck Simulator, ship simulator, train simulator etc. Since the early days of the 2020 alpha times. Edited June 23, 20232 yr by ca_metal 9800X3D@H150i // Msi RTX 5090 Trio OC // 64GB DDR5 6000mhz CL30 // 2TB + 1TB Nvme Dell 27" 2127DGF - 1440p - Gsync - 165hz Thrustmaster TCA Sidestick Airbus // TCA Quadrant Airbus // TFRP T.Flight Rudder Pedals // Logitech Flight Multi Panel
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