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ATC: button or voice?

ATC: button or voice? 57 members have voted

  1. 1. ATC: button or voice?

    • Button control: I'd never use voice
      38%
    • Voice control: I'd never use button
      7%
    • Both, but I'd use button more often
      29%
    • Both, but I'd use voice more often
      24%

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When it comes to ATC addons it seems that voice control is the preferred option by most simmers. I wonder if this is really true or if those who prefer voice control simply are more er... vocal. 😉 I myself prefer button control. In fact, I wouldn't use an ATC addon that only offers voice control. With BeyondATC on the horizon I do wonder what everyone here on AVSIM prefers.

18 minutes ago, tup61 said:

I wouldn't use an ATC addon that only offers voice control

Same for me ... to weird for me to talk to my computer. My wife would think I'm finally crazy

Guenter Steiner
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Wearing a headset while flying in my PC room, for hours, is torture. I use PF3, have two joystick buttons programmed, and with two other keyboard keypresses, it is all I need for the vast majority of flights. 

 

 

 

Only way I'd use voice is if the response sounded authentic, a good AI / TTS voice. Getting some awful Microsoft Sam voice, just makes me wince.

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I prefer good menu-based scripting, as every voice-recognition approach I've tried has an unacceptably high rate of errors, and it's *really* distracting trying to undo an incorrectly-heard request/report while flying an approach/departure etc.

For crew aircraft flying, the copilot would be handling the comms anyway.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
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I use PF3 and Multi-Crew-Experience. The MCE interfaces my voice with PF3. That way, I have only  1 button to push and speak my ATC commands.

MCE is very forgiving with the various ATC phrases as long as I include either Clearance, Ground, Tower, Departure, or Approach and my call sign.

MCE is very understanding when it comes to how I say the commands.

PF3 can also include the voice ID, so if you decide a particular voice is too robotic, you can remove that voice ID and it is not used.

I use this combination all the time now...and it works great!

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I use Pilot2ATC with voice, but like to have button control available for those nights when I don't want to bother other people in the house.

Alvega

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The option "Both, I use both options almost equally" is missing in the poll.

Any ATC addon should offer both methods.

 

6 hours ago, Bob Scott said:

I prefer good menu-based scripting, as every voice-recognition approach I've tried has an unacceptably high rate of errors, and it's *really* distracting trying to undo an incorrectly-heard request/report while flying an approach/departure etc.

For crew aircraft flying, the copilot would be handling the comms anyway.

I've noticed this as well, but to be completely fair, it's a bit apples and oranges at this point. Voice recognition and speech synthesis software have moved so quickly in the last couple of years, it's like a generational improvement at this point, and stuff built on old technologies and frameworks has been left behind in the dust.

Think of how great iPhone dictation is now versus even two years ago. The right plugin for speech synthesis can be used to create hundreds of custom voices from audio samples, all of which sound real. I took a couple samples of a Barack Obama audiobook, and now I have a fully serviceable Obama AI voice, which I can get to read you a news article in Portuguese.

I think a pivot in the right direction here would be a massive experience improvement.

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