On 7/29/2023 at 9:09 PM, bogdansrb said:

I think their testing team are the fans over at the org forum that can't see any issues with x-plane.

Again, perhaps some links to those posts that say XP12 is 'perfect'.

On 7/28/2023 at 7:15 PM, bogdansrb said:

It's not on their top priorities since they all have macs with retina displays and nvidia cards with AA postprocessing and they don't care for us peasants with 1080p displays.

It's just a guess, but do you live with @turbomax?  I'm finding it difficult to decide which one is posting.

Edited July 30, 20232 yr by MrBitstFlyer

58 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I'm finding it difficult to decide which one is posting.

actually quite easy. my posts are full of screenshots.

thrust reversers deployed. FAA approved:

Edited July 30, 20232 yr by turbomax

14 minutes ago, turbomax said:

actually quite easy. my posts are full of screenshots.

thrust reversers deployed. FAA approved:

Seems you made a boo boo deploying thrust reversers in the air

54 minutes ago, turbomax said:

actually quite easy. my posts are full of screenshots.

thrust reversers deployed. FAA approved:

Seems physically correct to me, in the right conditions?

Edited July 30, 20232 yr by Murmur

2 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

Seems you made a boo boo deploying thrust reversers in the air

seems you made a boo boo not understanding how the Citation X thrust reversers work.

interesting what we can learn from the self-proclaimed experts here. how about I was on the ground, as you can still see the runway.

"The reversers can only be deployed, by the reverse
thrust levers, when the primary throttle (thrust levers) are in the idle thrust position and the airplane is on the ground, as sensed by either of the main gear squat switches. "

https://www.smartcockpit.com/docs/Cessna_Citation_X-Engines.pdf

p.s. "Private and commercial aircraft feature safeties within the system that prevent the thrust reversers from deploying when the aircraft is in the air."

 

Edited July 31, 20232 yr by turbomax

1 hour ago, Murmur said:

physically correct

sure, absolutely correct for an airplane to fall back on its tail with thrust reversers activated. that's why they are used only rarely for pushbacks. 🤣

"x-plane looks good under certain conditions (tm)"

show me a single youtube illustrating this effect in real life.

Edited July 31, 20232 yr by turbomax

21 minutes ago, turbomax said:

sure, absolutely correct for an airplane to fall back on its tail with thrust reversers activated. that's why they are used only rarely for pushbacks. 🤣

"x-plane looks good under certain conditions (tm)"

show me a single youtube illustrating this effect in real life.

So thats one plane that may we be a developer issue, Did you slam the breaks on. Considering your location, you either did a lousy landing or failed to undeploy reverse  which is both your fault.

9 minutes ago, mjrhealth said:

1) So thats one plane that may we be a developer issue, 

2) a) you either did a lousy landing or b) failed to undeploy reverse  which is both your fault.

1) default x-plane12 aircraft

2) or c) x-plane did a lousy job. you're so funny.

this is how it works in the real world:

 

7 minutes ago, turbomax said:

1) default x-plane12 aircraft

2) or c) x-plane did a lousy job. you're so funny.

this is how it works in the real world:

 

Considering you are the first one to complain about it, and there are lots of users who fly that plane, Id say you have a problem not xplane. Ive certainly never seeing that and I flew the pants off it during the early release. Just about every complaint has being of the FMS because it is not a pay ware product and everyone wants pay ware performance.

Of course to add, if it is a bug and you can prove it, you know what to do.

Edited July 31, 20232 yr by mjrhealth

"Seems you made a boo boo deploying thrust reversers in the air"

seems you are an expert in thrust reversers.

"you are the first one to complain about"

I have complained about many more issues.

instead of justifying an x-plane problem, read up on thrust reversers and show me a single youtube where a plane falls on its tail because of thrust reversers. 🤣

3 minutes ago, turbomax said:

I have complained about many more issues.

instead of justifying an x-plane problem, read up on thrust reversers and show me a single youtube where a plane falls on its tail because of thrust reversers.

I said you are the first to complain about this issue. I have never seeing anyone else complain about this. So again if its a bug did you submit a report. Simple yes know would suffice. And so far you havnt confirmed its an xplane problem, if it was there would be a lot more complaints on this issue.

Ill leave it at that.

I really hope we don't have people in these forums, let alone this community, who expect near 100% accuracy in default aircraft in ANY flight sim.

I'm not going to go out on a limb and make any judgements on those people, but if anyone was expecting study level default aircraft, that come for free with the base package, and were NOT made by developers who already had a payware version of that aircraft, and were offered a fat bag of cash for that aircraft...I would be very shocked, and I would seriously question that persons thought process and/or motives.  Regardless if the base platform was FAA certified or not.

 

Edited July 31, 20232 yr by GoranM

On 7/29/2023 at 11:21 PM, Dirk.M said:

I think, that today many gamers are thinking, that the bigest display with the highest resolution ist the holy grail.

In my opinieon the most gamers follow the advertising promises of the manufacturers.

I think a good FullHD Display with 29" in combination wir TrackIR brings a lot more with less problems.

 

It reminds me of the time when the foxtail on the Opel Manta's antenna was a substitute for penis size.

You're forgetting the people with Home Cockpit. And precisely because X-Plane is unbeatable in this respect, there will be more people here who use it.

I even considered putting a separate monitor on each B737 "window" at one point, but then discarded it because I also use the room as a living room. So you see the use of X-Plane is very diverse and not always small monitors are useful and usable.

Edited July 31, 20232 yr by Skylon5000

5 hours ago, turbomax said:

sure, absolutely correct for an airplane to fall back on its tail with thrust reversers activated. that's why they are used only rarely for pushbacks. 🤣

"x-plane looks good under certain conditions (tm)"

show me a single youtube illustrating this effect in real life.

Oops, I honestly thought your shot was from MFS ?

In MFS, we can actually make some really weird stuff on ground, playing with thrust reverse... It also applies to some payware aircraft like the ATR 72 / 42 with prop reverse... 

Some aircraft can accelerate wildly on thrust reverser, even some airliners where the effect is actually more that of an aerodynamic wall than one of "inverting the thrust axis"...

OFC default aircraft on both sims can leave a lot to be desired in terms of accuracy when we look at some details.