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If you're suffering from micro-stutters & bad performance...

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That didn't change anything, but whatever this is it's substantial.  You can certainly fly but significant loss of fluid animation at least while on the ground.  I'm convinced it's server side as nothing has changed here now beyond the new GPU driver which that did not impact this, nor did WU15 uninstall.

From 2/4/24:

KTPA gate to cruise PMDG 738:KPTA-Gate-to-Cruise-738.png

Initial approach to gate at KORD:Initial-Approah-to-gate-KORD-738.png

Everything since 2/4/24 look like this or worse:Post-2-4-24.png

 

 

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Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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22 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Probably another asobo server-related issue. I don't have any issues with the world update. But seeing how some are/aren't at various times....maybe it is just asobo.

It is a mistake to ascribe server-related issues to “Asobo”. They do not operate or control the servers that stream game content. That is Microsoft Azure.

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

25 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

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Duplicate post

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

Glad I'm not the only one... I thought it was exclusive to me and timing corresponded with SU15 but to Noel's point I think I also had a significant Windows10 update as well.  My drivers haven't changed, add-ons haven't changed, don't use cache, settings haven't changed although I did verify nothing changed without me realizing in the background.  

So I had a Windows 10 update and an SU15 update and ever since almost every flight is a stutter fest.  

12900/4090 running 200/100 LOD so not even tweaking. 

 

Have a Wonderful Day

-Paul Solk

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10 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

It is a mistake to ascribe server-related issues to “Asobo”. They do not operate or control the servers that stream game content. That is Microsoft Azure.

Thanks. But, I think you know what I meant by that.

 

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Did an Nvidia driver update correspond roughly with this update?  There is a hotfix out now, just released, to fix stuttering.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5519/~/geforce-hotfix-driver-version-551.46

 

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Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's.  Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.

22 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Did an Nvidia driver update correspond roughly with this update?  There is a hotfix out now, just released, to fix stuttering.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5519/~/geforce-hotfix-driver-version-551.46

 

Just completed a flight after clean installing this hotfix--no better at all.  Also, had removed the most recent Win 10 update which was a waste of effort because I had typical stutter free flight the day after it was installed.   Again, looking like a server side issue.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

There could be a broader issue, but I decided to test things on my system.

I just flew at iniBuilds' KJFK with the Kodiak (which I find tends to be fairly taxing because of the glass screens), with 200/200 LOD settings at 4K mostly Ultra settings. I had previously uninstalled the WU15 package when I first saw this suggestion (and after having felt like SU14 added many stutters, but hadn't thought it might be WU15). My experience with no AI traffic was much smoother than I had been having recently. Not a single stutter while flying in low circles around the airport. Then I added PSXT with full traffic coverage in a 20nm area and my frames obviously dipped significantly, but the experience was still smooth and no stutters.

I exited the simulator and then restarted it. I then re-installed WU15 (7.5 GB download), exited the sim and restarted it again. I then repeated the test above.

I have a fairly beefy PC system, and I would say that there is a difference and while it's not subtle, I'm not sure that I want to delete the WU15 again only to try it again sometime later. Yes, with WU15 installed, the sim feels less smooth, but I can live with the stutters as it's generally smooth unless I get close to the ground. I am going to leave it installed and hope that the next System Update, with the promised memory management improvements, solves the remaining stutters.

delete. double post.

 

 

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

Major problem now and I've exhausted troubleshooting including DX11 which was even worse.  I hardly ever see stutters for a long time now until this I mean literally a couple per 2h flight.  Don't see much discussion anywhere else so hard to say what's up.  This is one of those issues that is completely independent of CPU/GPU/VRAM load.  It just stuttered 20x during pushback a minute ago w/ ample headroom.  It does get better up in the air but I had whatever it is goes away soon.  Perhaps they've put a weenie in the warp drive so as to make SU16's "performance enhancing" impact maximally impressive 😉

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

I haven’t experienced many stutters post SU14, flying around SoCal in the analog King Air. Perhaps the issue will be mitigated somewhat in SU15 with improved memory management. 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I haven’t experienced many stutters post SU14, flying around SoCal in the analog King Air. Perhaps the issue will be mitigated somewhat in SU15 with improved memory management. 

welcome back

Ramon De Valencia

AMD 9950X3D / 64GB DDR5 6000MHz / RTX 5090 / 1200 watt PSU

MSFS 2020 and 2024

4 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

haven’t experienced many stutters post SU14, flying around SoCal in the analog King Air. Perhaps the issue will be mitigated somewhat in SU15 with improved memory management. 

Yay, he is back. we missed the Capt! I thought he must have had some macro stutters and stranded near the Marshall or Howland islands.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/30/travel/amelia-earhart-missing-plane-pacific-ocean-scn/index.html

 

Edited by turbomax

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

2 hours ago, turbomax said:

Yay, he is back. we missed the Capt! I thought he must have had some macro stutters and stranded near the Marshall or Howland islands.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/30/travel/amelia-earhart-missing-plane-pacific-ocean-scn/index.html

 

He needs to upgrade from his class three hyperdrive, that's what he needs to do!  

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's.  Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.

2 hours ago, turbomax said:

Yay, he is back. we missed the Capt! I thought he must have had some macro stutters and stranded near the Marshall or Howland islands.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/30/travel/amelia-earhart-missing-plane-pacific-ocean-scn/index.html

 

He needs to upgrade from his class three hyperdrive, that's what he needs to do!  

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's.  Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.

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