Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

The AVSIM Community

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

If you're suffering from micro-stutters & bad performance...

Featured Replies

On 2/8/2024 at 9:28 AM, Christopher Low said:

I installed MSFS for the first time in November last year, and installed all of the world updates (including the recently released WU15). I was very impressed with the performance, even in dense scenery areas. However, after a while I noticed that I was getting micro stutters quite frequently. These were most noticeable on final approach, but they were also evident through turns. I had no idea why this started happening, but I solved it by following the instructions in the video below. This was several weeks ago now, and performance has been solid as a rock since then (including plenty of short flights in Norway, Sweden and Denmark).

In short, I now have really impressive performance across the board......and this has remained the case since I installed WU16. I do not use AI planes at the moment (and I do not see me activating them any time soon, as I am enjoying the combination of smooth framerates, minimal stutters, and incredible graphics far too much to risk spoiling the experience), but if my PC from yesteryear can handle it (i5 7600k @ 4.5Ghz/32GB DDR4-3600 RAM/6GB Nvidia GTX 980Ti), then the vast majority of flight simmers should have no issues whatsoever.


I tried the recommendations in this video, and I must say it has had a really noticeable effect. When he started talking about clearing DX and GL caches, I thought, well, that's what I routinely do anyway. But, there are other steps included that I'd never done, and the result is much smoother performance. Definitely not placebo, but a genuine improvement. Everyone should at least try it out. Thanks to @Christopher Low for posting it.

Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting.

https://rationalwiki.org

  • Replies 94
  • Views 19.9k
  • Created
  • Last Reply
8 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I haven’t experienced many stutters post SU14, flying around SoCal in the analog King Air. Perhaps the issue will be mitigated somewhat in SU15 with improved memory management. 

He lives!  Hi Cpt!

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

2 hours ago, Paul K said:


I tried the recommendations in this video, and I must say it has had a really noticeable effect. When he started talking about clearing DX and GL caches, I thought, well, that's what I routinely do anyway. But, there are other steps included that I'd never done, and the result is much smoother performance. Definitely not placebo, but a genuine improvement. Everyone should at least try it out. Thanks to @Christopher Low for posting it.

I never knew there were these other cache folders, and in my case there is no DXShader cache in AppData>Local>NVIDIA, just GLCache and NvBackend live there for folders.  I routinely use the Windows DiskClean for this.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

11 minutes ago, Noel said:

He lives!  Hi Cpt!

good to have him back !

ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS  2TB 980 Pro , MSFS  2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO  . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz  TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack)  Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons 

Once again, a lot of this makes no sense.  Clean out the GL cache?  This is for applications using OpenGL for graphics.  MSFS uses DirectX exclusively, so why?

 

 

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's.  Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.

we don't know just clean them out Bobcat ! lol

ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS  2TB 980 Pro , MSFS  2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO  . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz  TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack)  Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons 

6 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Once again, a lot of this makes no sense.  Clean out the GL cache?  This is for applications using OpenGL for graphics.  MSFS uses DirectX exclusively, so why?

 

 

We just do as the man says. We must obey. We are assimilated.

Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting.

https://rationalwiki.org

🤭

ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS  2TB 980 Pro , MSFS  2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO  . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz  TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack)  Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons 

18 minutes ago, Noel said:

I never knew there were these other cache folders, and in my case there is no DXShader cache in AppData>Local>NVIDIA, just GLCache and NvBackend live there for folders.  I routinely use the Windows DiskClean for this.

Have you looked here - C:\Users\( your name) \AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache ? I delete everything in there, except the ones that are in use, and therefore can not be deleted.

Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting.

https://rationalwiki.org

10 minutes ago, Paul K said:

Have you looked here - C:\Users\( your name) \AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache ? I delete everything in there, except the ones that are in use, and therefore can not be deleted.

Thanks I only looked in the folder referenced in the video, but yes I see it there now in the PerDriver folder.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

I envy you all, as there is nothing to delete in my NVidia folder that might increase performance. perhaps I should go and delete something else then instead? otherwise it feels like mission not accomplished:

spacer.png

 

all I can offer for deletion is this logfile in GfnRuntimeSdk, if that might increase 1-2 fps, is that where the micro stutters are hiding?

2024-02-09T18:06:14.250   GfnSdk  APP GfnRuntimeBootstrap.c:174  Create Bootstrap
2024-02-09T18:06:14.251               GfnRuntimeBootstrap.c:718  Joining MessageBus as GfnSdk:GfnSdkClientPeer_11584
2024-02-09T18:06:14.251[E]               GfnRuntimeBootstrap.c:736  Could not get MessageBus interface

 

spacer.png

 

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

1 hour ago, Paul K said:

I delete everything in there, except the ones that are in use, and therefore can not be deleted.

Well, if you start by Disabling the Shader Cache Size, then reboot, you will be able to delete everything in the ../../DxCache folder and the other folders.

Put Shader Cache Size back to Driver Default and reboot again.

I've done it like this for as long as I can remember.

Cheers, Søren Dissing

Intel i9-13900K @5.6-5.8 Ghz | ASUS ROG RYUJIN III | ASUS ROG Astral RTX 5090 OC | ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero | 64Gb DDR5 @5600 | 1Tb Samsung M.2 980 PRO (Win11), 1Tb Samsung M.2 980 PRO, | ASUS ROG Helios 601 | 32” ASUS PG32UCDM 240hz 4K | Chaseplane | TM TCA Captain's Edition, Winwing FCU + EFIS L/R, Tobii 5 | Win 11 Pro 64 | MSFS 2024 | BA Virtual | PSXT, RealTraffic w/ AIG models

 

 

1 hour ago, SierraDelta said:

Well, if you start by Disabling the Shader Cache Size, then reboot, you will be able to delete everything in the ../../DxCache folder and the other folders.

Put Shader Cache Size back to Driver Default and reboot again.

I've done it like this for as long as I can remember.

I figured this was the routine so did it a moment ago on the off chance it will, somehow address this recent onset of bigtime stuttering in the context of ample GPU/CPU/VRAM headroom.  Just these past few days of this and nothing like it for the past year or well more.  Kind of unpredicted that cache-clearing procedural will impact this recent problem as I've had stutter-free as the norm now for ages but we shall see in a few seconds, just finishing loading and close to taxi

Update:  no joy, as predicted.

Edited by Noel

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

2 hours ago, SierraDelta said:

Put Shader Cache Size back to Driver Default and reboot again.

I thought the consesus was to set this to something large, like unlimited ?

1 hour ago, mobeans10 said:

I thought the consesus was to set this to something large, like unlimited ?

It appears this folder store driver-specific shader files.  If you set to unlimited it's conceivable it will store all driver shader files ever installed per driver, even if they aren't used.  I seriously doubt this is of any consequence save the unnecessary use of storage, but it isn't much anyway.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.