BeyondATC Released (EA)

[Bobsk8 12,863]

10 minutes ago, agutz said:

I did a few flights with Early Access BATC and quite liked it for what it does but I'm a bit surprised that BATC in its present state is in this thread discussed as an "Air Traffic Control" program. It controls my a/c, but that's all it does. All the other programs occasionally mentioned here try, with more and less success, to control my a/c in dependence of what other a/c around me are doing. In its present state BeyondATC should rather be named "BeforeATC". It doesn't do anything I cannot do with a Simbrief route, PMDG's FMC and the excellent Aivla Soft's EFB (unfortunately no longer available) in an otherwise empty sky. The proof of the pudding will come when BATC steers me through crowded air space, whether traffic will be generated by MSFS or by the ATC program itself. Venerable RC4 did just that: exemprarily controlling traffic generated by FSX or P3D. Unfortunaly it's not compatible with MSFS.

NB: Real life ATC was created when the airspace became so crowded that some strikt control was neccessary. Crowded airspace was and is its raison d'être. In an empty sky we don't need any.

Aivlasoft EFB will be available to the end of 2025, and maybe longer. 

[kiek 1,236]

24 minutes ago, ark4diusz said:

I do not follow the development info / threads on BATC Discord. Have one question, is there any indication regarding the traffic injection feature implementation timeline? Is 2024 release achievable, or should we expect 2025? Is there any rough estimate?

If you mean injecting traffic under ATC control my guess would be 2035, if at all.

Edited May 6 by kiek

[ryanbatc 13,038]

Can this application do just GA IFR?  I don't use simbrief etc.  Where does it get my FPL from?  Is SB the only way to use this program?  I just want to fly general aviation direct or airways etc, and then shoot approaches.  

Is it only for IFR airliners?

[virtualstuff 770]

4 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Can this application do just GA IFR?  I don't use simbrief etc.  Where does it get my FPL from?  Is SB the only way to use this program?  I just want to fly general aviation direct or airways etc, and then shoot approaches.  

Is it only for IFR airliners?

At this point only IFR and simbrief...

[ShadowN7 12]

6 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Can this application do just GA IFR?  I don't use simbrief etc.  Where does it get my FPL from?  Is SB the only way to use this program?  I just want to fly general aviation direct or airways etc, and then shoot approaches.  

Is it only for IFR airliners?

You can do GA IFR but you have to use SimBrief for the flight plan.  There was one beta tester that all he did was GA IFR.  He helped them add a lot of features you need for that into the program.  One example is requesting clearance from an uncontrolled airport.

Edited May 6 by ShadowN7

[Bobsk8 12,863]

8 minutes ago, kiek said:

If you mean injecting traffic under ATC control my guess would be 2035, if at all.

In the beginning when BATC was first announced in development, there was an uproar by some stating that if it didn't control AI , it was worthless. Then the developer decided he would incorporate AI control, and now I think he has found himself holding a tiger by the tail. They have had different AI programs over the years, some better than others, and all they had to do was control AI. To combine these two functions, AI under ATC control, to everyone's satisfaction, is far  in the distance, if it ever happens. In the mean time, I just dial my AI back a bit so it doesn't flood the skies, and the problems I have flying airliners at a rate of about 15 flights per week, is miniscule. Haven't had a mid air yet. 😉

Edited May 6 by Bobsk8

[ryanbatc 13,038]

13 minutes ago, virtualstuff said:

At this point only IFR and simbrief...

ahhh.  darn.  Is simbrief free?  I've looked at like once haha.

[rutrA 302]

40 minutes ago, ark4diusz said:

I do not follow the development info / threads on BATC Discord. Have one question, is there any indication regarding the traffic injection feature implementation timeline? Is 2024 release achievable, or should we expect 2025? Is there any rough estimate?

Dev said that the release of version with AI Traffic injection will take place within 2-4 months after the EA release.
Additionally, if someone purchased the Support version, they will get an earlier version for testing AI traffic.

 

[virtualstuff 770]

1 minute ago, ryanbatc said:

ahhh.  darn.  Is simbrief free?  I've looked at like once haha.

Yep is still free only the airac update is from navigraph

[Tuskin38 6,635]

There seems to be some regional accents as well, I was in New York and had ATC with a Brooklyn accent.

2 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

ahhh.  darn.  Is simbrief free?  I've looked at like once haha.

Yes, but the AIRAC cycle is way behind unless you subscribe to Navigraph.

[ryanbatc 13,038]

4 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

There seems to be some regional accents as well, I was in New York and had ATC with a Brooklyn accent.

Yes, but the AIRAC cycle is way behind unless you subscribe to Navigraph.

i have navigraph rog.  I'm very tempted by the app haha.

[MaGer1965 39]

Regarding the more or less 'terrible' foreign accent voices in the basic model the lead dev stated a few minutes ago on discord that there will be an option 'to turn them off' in the next build.If that really happens: 👍

 

[sonny147 585]

Very Very Basically , is it worth the ££ for someone who doesn't / hasn't got time for Vatsim and knows the default sim ATC is rubbish , but would like to do a bit of ATC interaction , and no aim not expecting miracles 😊

[F1Fan 123]

6 minutes ago, sonny147 said:

Very Very Basically , is it worth the ££ for someone who doesn't / hasn't got time for Vatsim and knows the default sim ATC is rubbish , but would like to do a bit of ATC interaction , and no aim not expecting miracles 😊

I think so.  It's not a bad ATC for learning the basics of talking to it for Vatsim practice.  I like it so far.  The $29.99 version is the one to get. 

[westman 257]

1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

Can this application do just GA IFR?  I don't use simbrief etc.  Where does it get my FPL from?  Is SB the only way to use this program?  I just want to fly general aviation direct or airways etc, and then shoot approaches.  

Is it only for IFR airliners?

Did a short fligt tody  60nm  ESNK  i get vectored direct to Lpv and cleared for LPV 17 from sweden control  but ESNK has no tower the flightplan  i made for simbrief , yes it should work i used tbm850  for that flight, ESNN/34 N0267F060 DCT NK852 DCT ESNK/17