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Rocky_53

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Don't forget VoxATC is on the horizon guys. :wink:

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Sethos
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Stop being so immature. If you don't understand the meaning of "early access" and you start calling the software 'a piece of' because it's not working perfectly a few hours after it released, don't bu

eslader
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You guys must have all missed the part where the dev put it to a vote and the majority asked them to release early. Several of us said yes, release early but just be prepared for the dogpile of people

G550flyer
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Greetings all, I just wanted to drop a few things after scrolling through this thread😁. When I'm not slipping the surly bonds, I do my secondary job as a product manager doing software development int

Rocky_53

Rocky_53

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2 hours ago, techman said:

Hahah lol.. who are you?

Honestly - when charging 30 Bucks for a software that only works when admin rights are granted - I am freaking allowed to warn everyone about it - thats a kids mistake and nothing that should happen in professional software development, end of discussion. As sooner this problem is fixed the sooner the moaning will stop. 

And, just for the record, the workaround for "not connecting to sim" is "uninstall" and "reinstall with admin privileges". 

Sure, but in fairness, there are a number of apps that need to be run as admin, FSHud is one that also needs to be run as admin. :wink:

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tup61

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Don't forget VoxATC is on the horizon giys.

Yeah, ATC is getting a lot of attention lately...! And also let's not forget MSFS2024 is coming up too: you never know what ATC surprises it will have up its sleeves. I would have bought BATC regardless anyway but I can't so well... maybe it's for the better. We'll see. Looking forward to the first bug rep... I mean reviews. 😎

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Rocky_53

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1 minute ago, tup61 said:

Yeah, ATC is getting a lot of attention lately...! And also let's not forget MSFS2024 is coming up too: you never know what ATC surprises it will have up its sleeves. I would have bought BATC regardless anyway but I can't so well... maybe it's for the better. We'll see. Looking forward to the first bug rep... I mean reviews. 😎

Sure, I have learnt the hard way over the years, best to sit back and let the dust settle before parting with hard earned cash for a new release.

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bennyboy75

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Quick hop to Belfast for me and I had the connection issue so ran as admin, no issues after that. I couldn’t work out how to change my call sign but apart from that I’m very impressed. Some of the phraseology is a little weird - ‘maintain runway centreline’ in the clearance but was changed to ‘maintain runway heading’ in the takeoff clearance. I didn’t really get any vectors at the end but rather cleared to the LOC via the transition that basically left me to fly the whole DME arc, not something I’d expect to do but it did work out.  
 

The voices and functionality of it are really good though. Too soon to say, but this definitely is game changer territory. 

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martinboehme

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8 minutes ago, Rocky_53 said:

????????

 

This referred to a question of whether BeyondATC controls or talks to Ai aircraft. It currently does neither. The developers plan to add this in a later update. 

Rocky_53

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1 minute ago, martinboehme said:

This referred to a question of whether BeyondATC controls or talks to Ai aircraft. It currently does neither. The developers plan to add this in a later update. 

Sure, my question marks were related to the release of the program wihtout this function rather than not understanding the statement :smile: I do find it rather odd, and don't quite understand it to be honest. To me, early access is effectively a BETA release, it has to be, surely, as it's an incomplete product that does not function correctly, so I find it difficult to accept that I have to pay for that 'privilege.'

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Fiorentoni

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Only tried voice recognition so far, no real flight yet, but it sure understands me a lot better than SI! That's probably because the program is looking for keywords only ("clearance"), while SI tries to interpret the whole phrase and will make very absurd things out of it at times.

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tup61

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5 minutes ago, bennyboy75 said:

I couldn’t work out how to change my call sign

BATC uses the call sign you set in SimBrief.

5 minutes ago, bennyboy75 said:

Some of the phraseology is a little weird

Yes, even towards the end of the beta (well, the EA still is the beta of course) there were discussions about the phraseology... I guess it will never be 100% realistic. It's all about compromises. Some choices are a bit odd though like the take off clearance always being 'line up and take off' in one go. (FSHud still has quite a few things going for it! 😉 )

Fiorentoni

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1 minute ago, Rocky_53 said:

To me, early access is effectively a BETA release, it has to be, surely, as it's an incomplete product that does not function correctly, so I find it difficult to accept that I have to pay for that 'privilege.'

I don't understand what you're saying. You think you shouldn't have to pay for early access products?

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tup61

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4 minutes ago, Rocky_53 said:

To me, early access is effectively a BETA release,

It actually is. They simply released the latest beta as EA. It's a paid beta. But well, most EA's are! I don't really see what's different between a beta and an EA. Other than that everyone can now beta test.

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Rocky_53

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28 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

I don't understand what you're saying. You think you shouldn't have to pay for early access products?

If an early access is effectively a BETA product and incomplete with bugs and issues, then sure, in my opinion I don't think you should be paying. Is that an odd way of thinking? Maybe it's me...

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Fiorentoni

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4 minutes ago, Rocky_53 said:

If an early access is effectively a BETA product and incomplete with bugs and issues, then sure, in my opinion I don't think you should be paying. Is that an odd way of thinking? Maybe it's me...

No no, it's not you. It's present times. It is what it is these days.

I was just suprised at you even mentioning this, because early access has always been like that.

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Tierborn

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3 hours ago, techman said:

This "Install as admin" or "run as admin" is not working for me. I think we should give the dev some time to harden his piece of sh.. erm.. software. 

boo .... lets support developers trying to improve our hobby.

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techman

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No problem paying for this. The dev was very clear about the functionality. He had a somehow stellar marketing campaign running and all this stuff, but after the discord-survey it was pretty clear what you will get for your money. The "installation as admin" is a clear problem though.

So at the end - he did a lot of work in advance and now he has to make some money - no problem with that. Nobody of us is working for nothing.

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