May 25, 20242 yr Very good info / thread. I haven’t tried FBW in quite awhile since I got Fenix several months ago. But with Fenix’ recent “upgrade “ to v2, I still notice a big performance hit, stuttery approaches at the worst moment close to the ground, and consistent loss of control when using their built-in “Pause at TOD”. Sim still running, but A/C will not respond to any control inputs whatsoever. Just flys off on its own. Happens every time. Loading up FBW today, skipping iniBuilds. Edited May 25, 20242 yr by joby33y grammar rgds, JB 9800x3d, ASUS TUF x870, 64GB G.Skill DDR5, MSI Ventus 4080, HP Reverb G2 VR, FlyVirtual.net, Private Pilot SEL rating, subLogic FlightSim 1983 & every release since
May 25, 20242 yr On 5/23/2024 at 6:39 PM, BrammyH said: Also, since it's not a contracted MS airplane, it will see updates faster. The A20n will be like the a310: Ini won't make any changes that's not in their contract with MSFS. This is the key. I much prefer the IniBuilds A320, with independent MCDUs, better model, better cockpit overall but since it is bound to MS for updates, it'll end up a semi-finished product like the 310 which is really really sad. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
May 26, 20242 yr Does the iniBuilds A320 perform better than the FBW? AMD Ryzen™ 9 9900X3D, AM5, Zen 5, 12 Core, 24 Threads, 4.4GHz, 5.5GHz Turbo 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz Corsair Vengeance 32GB GeForce® RTX 5090 Graphics Card
May 26, 20242 yr I like the Inibuilds A320 very much, it is not perfect but it performs much better than the FBW and has RNAV, weather radar (it's rudimental but it works, and there is no terrain radar), very nice and most complete systems. I'm not an A320 specialist, but the way the Inibuild performs landings is more than acceptable and in some cases it is more convincing than the Fenix, especially the flare/retard phase and how it's touching the wheels on the runway. Hoping that Inibuilds will work more on their A320 in the future, they made a very good work. Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).
May 26, 20242 yr 21 hours ago, joby33y said: and consistent loss of control when using their built-in “Pause at TOD” I would suggest using Lorby Time Machine instead of the built in pause at TOD. I use it every flight with the Fenix without issues. https://www.lorby-si.com/downloads.html Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
May 26, 20242 yr 21 hours ago, Nuno Pinto said: This is the key. I much prefer the IniBuilds A320, with independent MCDUs, better model, better cockpit overall but since it is bound to MS for updates, it'll end up a semi-finished product like the 310 which is really really sad. How is the A310 semi finished? The ini A320N will get P&W engines sometime in the future. I personally wouldn’t expect them until after 2024 releases since that’s Asobo’s Focus right now. Edited May 26, 20242 yr by Tuskin38
May 26, 20242 yr On 5/24/2024 at 8:46 PM, BWBriscoe said: The FBW A320neo is miles ahead of the iniBuilds version. Stick to that That’s not entirely true. The ini has features the FBW doesn’t yet. Like full RNAV and go-arounds On 5/23/2024 at 5:23 PM, markmasterson said: Tried to GSX to connect for pushback. Kept asking to release parking brakes...I did that Working fine here, worked for me the entire SU15 beta as well. Make sure your GSX is up to date. Edited May 26, 20242 yr by Tuskin38
May 26, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said: How is the A310 semi finished? The ini A320N will get P&W engines sometime in the future. I personally wouldn’t expect them until after 2024 releases since that’s Asobo’s Focus right now. It's not as polished as the A300, and the EFB could use a nice update as well. It's missing the P&W engines, no freighter, the MCDU isn't as feature-rich as the A300 as well... Semi-finished. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
May 26, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said: It's not as polished as the A300, and the EFB could use a nice update as well. It's missing the P&W engines, no freighter, the MCDU isn't as feature-rich as the A300 as well... Semi-finished. That is not what semi-finished means They never planned for it to match the A300. If they promised it would have a feature but never delivered on it, than yeah that would be unfinished. But they’ve done everything they were asked to do by Microsoft. So it’s finished. Edited May 26, 20242 yr by Tuskin38
May 26, 20242 yr This is the first plane from ini that can be landed beautifully. Yes, Fenix is good, but its landing is very bad, it ruins the whole experience. The only problem I have with the new ini is that on the run it almost abruptly leaves the runaway
May 26, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said: That is not what semi-finished means They never planned for it to match the A300. If they promised it would have a feature but never delivered on it, than yeah that would be unfinished. But they’ve done everything they were asked to do by Microsoft. So it’s finished. That depends on the point of view. To me, it's half-baked as the 320NEO will be, independently of what was promised. This is not the point, we're discussing whether the FBW is a better choice overall than the IniBuilds version and on the long run i believe it will be. Promised or not, the status doesn't lie: Unfinished, and won't get any new features 99.99% for sure along with the 310. Does this make them unflyable or bad? No, but again that's not the point. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
May 26, 20242 yr 45 minutes ago, romaf12008 said: (...), Fenix is good, but its landing is very bad, (...) Seriously? It's one of the most realistic planes right now doing exactly that, it's kinda odd you feel that way. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
May 26, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Nuno Pinto said: Seriously? It's one of the most realistic planes right now doing exactly that, it's kinda odd you feel that way. Nuno, I share the complains about the flight dynamics of the Fenix with many users of the addon. I acknowledge their efforts to make it "feel better", but in various aspects I don't think it equals, for instance, the FBW 320 NEO, or even the Inibuilds 320NEO v2 in terms of an hand flown approach and landing... Then, there are other limitations / inconsistencies like the poor modelling of engine-out sitiuations, Alternate and Direct Law control and FBW systems downgrade, etc... This opinion is actually shared with some RW professional Airbus pilots (portuguese) I know and use the Fenix, the FBW, the "new" Inibuilds v2 and also the FSLabs CEOs in P3D... They're almost all unanimous in their critics regarding the "flight dynamics" of the Fenix. Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 26, 20242 yr 4 hours ago, BWBriscoe said: Does the iniBuilds A320 perform better than the FBW? No. The FBW performs about 10-15 % better than the iniBuilds, at least on my system. When I get 40 FPS with the FBW I get 35 with the iniBuilds, roughly the same as with the Fenix. Edited May 26, 20242 yr by RALF9636
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