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Look at this Yoke (WOW)

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  • St Mawgan
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    'Affordable' is a relative term 😉

  • So what we've managed to figure out in only 16 hours is that "affordable" means different things to different people.   Truly we are a thinktank. 😉  

  • It translates the telemetry data from MSFS into feedback. Works fine in MSFS...  

'Affordable' is a relative term 😉

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Thought MSFS does not support FFB in any way? So all you would get from this is totally random and artifical feedback, no? Or does it come with a software that manages FFB via simconnect as an example?

Greetings, Chris

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Moza Racing have a booth at FSExpo and it's looking very likely they'll announce a FFB Joystick for Flight Sims.

Edit: actually announcement due today

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52 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Thought MSFS does not support FFB in any way? So all you would get from this is totally random and artifical feedback, no? Or does it come with a software that manages FFB via simconnect as an example?

The CLS-60 has it's own software connector where you can fine tune what effects are used and the relative force.

It also replicates mechanical trim i.e. trim down and the yoke will move and hold forward without any pilot intervention. It's impressive looking so far. They also have Autopilot functionality working but I haven't seen that demoed yet.

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2 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

'Affordable' is a relative term 😉

affordable in the sense of existing Force Feedback products such a brunner and simionic

Wayne such

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1 hour ago, Donka said:

The CLS-60 has it's own software connector where you can fine tune what effects are used and the relative force.

Means if the game, e.g. MSFS, does not support feedback at all, it is worth nothing ;-) 

Greetings, Chris

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3 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Means if the game, e.g. MSFS, does not support feedback at all, it is worth nothing 😉

Several online reviews of products like the Brunner FFB, suggest it works well in MSFS.

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Probably a long shot, but fingers crossed we get native FFB support in MSFS24.

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51 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Means if the game, e.g. MSFS, does not support feedback at all, it is worth nothing 😉

It translates the telemetry data from MSFS into feedback. Works fine in MSFS...

 

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1 hour ago, AnkH said:

Means if the game, e.g. MSFS, does not support feedback at all, it is worth nothing 😉

Wrong...  I have a Brunner and it supports FFB and follows the Autopilot even in the PMDG 737 in MSFS...   So that's that... 

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Wonderful, I stand corrected then 👍😊

Greetings, Chris

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I do wonder why they called it the CLS when the only other FFB yoke that I know of is the Brunner which is the CLS...  I will hold some of my negative thoughts to myself but will say the Brunner buttons, trim tabs and POV looks very "finished" and professional.  But I do really question why they called them the CLS-60 and CLS-120 when Brunner is the CLS-E and CLS-B...  

Why name your product the EXACT same acronym as an existing product? 

 

Have a Wonderful Day

-Paul Solk

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CLS is an acronym for Control Loading System and not a proprietary name which is why both manufacturers use it in their naming convention.

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2 minutes ago, Donka said:

CLS is an acronym for Control Loading System and not a proprietary name which is why both manufacturers use it in their naming convention.

Makes more sense now thank you...  

 

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