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I am interested in this unit.Does this unit work correctly in FSX?What commands does TIR4 send to FSX to make those special movements?Thanks.

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It sends "view" commands - basically. As you turn your head, the view in FSX changes to match your head position (they use an infrared unit which you place on your monitor to measure which way your head is moving.)It works very well in a room so long as no bright lights (windows, etc.) are behind you.TrackIR is expensive ... but raises the realism to an incredible level.I'm a famed cheapo ... but this one is worth the money you pay.Incidently ... get the version that contains the ProClip. It's more expensive, but worth it in my view. Place the proclip on a good headset with a microphone if you do multiplayer.

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Makes flying GA aircraft much more realistic and easy. Just turn your head, move up, look down, look out the window and down at the same time. Amazing the way it works. I don't like it for airliners because I like to use the 2D panel for those.

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>Makes flying GA aircraft much more realistic and easy. Just>turn your head, move up, look down, look out the window and>down at the same time. Amazing the way it works. I don't like>it for airliners because I like to use the 2D panel for>those.Are you surrounded by monitors? I am having a hard time grasping if I turn my head to the right to look out a window, and the view in the monitor in front of me on my desk then gives me the view of looking out the window how I'll be able to even see it if my head is turned to the right looking out a window.Does it take tiny motions of your head so you're only moving a fraction of an inch to switch views so whiel you've turned your head your still really looking straight ahead, and if so isn't it then overly sensitive.I can see this being a great product for people that have 3 or more monitors setup to surround them though.

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Yes, it does amplify head movements (small head movement causes effect of larger head movement on screen). However, I have found this very easy to deal with and don't find it too "sensitive" at all. Beyond that, it does have sensitivity adjustments so you can fine tune it to your own preferences.It doesn't take any time at all to become accustomed to the movements required for the results desired. From all the rave reviews it has received, it would appear that a large number of folks out there have had experiences with it much like mine.Dewey

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It's just like using the pan button on your joystick except your moving your head to control the panning instead of the joystick button.You can adjust how much you have to move your head per degree of panning to suit your own liking. But basically you are only moving your head a few degees to get 90 degrees of panning.What track IR gives you that you don't get from the joysitck pan button is 1) the ability to zoom in to read a gauge by moving your head forward, 2) the ability to move your head to the left or right in a tandem seating open cockpit aircraft to look over the side of the plane and down at the scenery, and 3) the ability to move your head around to see the guage or switch that is obscurred by the yoke on short final..Another important tidbit, I have a top of the line P4 3.0 single core machine :7 and have not experienced any impact on performance from using the track IR4.Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with the sales or this or any other any FS product. I just demoed one at FANCON and bought it. I have been very pleased with it.Ted

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I'll add-it just takes a few moments of getting used to and then it feels completely real and natural. After you use it a while you will find when you don't use it you will sympathetically be moving your head all the time! :-lolThe biggest thing for me is when you fly for real-your head is constantly moving looking around-and tracker ir allows you to experience this-also zooming in for a quick look at an instrument or looking over the nose for a better view. It is simply amazing!http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/1b5baf...b9f427f694g.jpgMy blog:http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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Thanks.A friend of mine has one of these units but never went into any great detail about it, other than to say that he loves it and wouldn't fly without it.The information is great and it may just end up on my short christmas list this year, barring that, I may just have to go buy it myself and get the job done before christmas. Yeah, this game is getting more expensive by the day haha. But I can think of worse things to spend my cash on.

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Have a look at an absolute master in action, and he's only using the TrackIR-3 with vector support?http://jeff.lumacs.net/Do-27FlyinRoundPortland.wmvNo disrespects Jeff ;-) lolThere's more on the www.FSAddon.com site under 'Vancouver+' video's. I never tire from watching them.Incidently, I won't fly without mine either.

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I recently purchased this unit too and love it.One suggestion, map the F8 and F9 keys to some buttons on your yoke. F8 toggle gives you temporary fine-precision control (head movement) while manipulating buttons and dials in the VC. At first, my neck was starting to hurt on the multi-hour big-iron flights until I figured out this important key. It's really cool to lean forward and type on the FMC in a true 3D (VC) enviornment. Also, the F9 key pauses the tracking movement for when the wife and kids insist on disturbing you with conversation, usually on Final. The third and final key F12 is used to recenter the forward view which I find only needs done once or twice on multi-hour flights.Probably the easiest integration of any hardware into both the FS9 and FSX applications I've ever experienced. Install the TrackIR driver and software and go! Get used to it, then tweak the profiles to your exact liking. 15 or 20 minutes and you'll have "as real as it gets!" ;)

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Add me to the list of TrackIR lovers. I fly fighters. I love it. With the TrackIR I am able to fly overhead approaches, from the break to the landing.You can look up through the canopy and even lean over to look down at the ground. I fly 100% VC and can easily fly an ILS or non-precision approach down to miniums.

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If you are unclear about getting a TrackIR, be sure to buy it from someplace with a No-Questions-Asked 30-Day return policy. If you order direct from NaturalPoint, I belive they still offer that guarantee, although you must check for yourself to be sure.The device is quite configurable, so that you can either use a pre-set config (I really like the "Progressive" setting), or you can quickly drum up your own. NaturalPoint keeps winning Bravo Zulu Awards from AVSIM, so there's bound to be a good reason for that -- if you have the money on hand, you owe it to yourself to try it out!Jeff ShylukAssistant Managing EditorSenior Staff ReviewerAVSIM

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>Desert Flyer,>>Their website has a demo that shows how the system works. You>might want to take a look there. A little movement of your>head results in a lot of movement in the view.>>http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/Is the amount of head movement adjustable?

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I had a tir2 and now I have a tir4 4 pro with the traclip. I hate flying FSX or driving dirt/rfactor/gtr2 without it.It's absolutely fantastic in combat flight sims like IL2. It's an awesome feeling being locked up in a scissors fight with someone and being able to just naturaly track them no matter what aerobatic manuever you are performing. Or being able to precisely track a target as it passes by merely focusing on it.It's pretty crazy in FSX, you can lean over and look under some of the dashboards. You can open a door/canopy, lean your head outside, and look up and down the length of your fuselage.It was cool in the loopy larry mission where you have to land on the moving bus. I opened the doors and flew the approach with my head out the door so I could see the starboard wheel.

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>Is the amount of head movement adjustable?It is very configurable. You can set up each of the degrees of freedom (x,y,z,roll,yaw,pitch) independently and with a linear or non-linear relationship. You can also change the exact shape of these reaction curves to suit your needs. You can also create different profiles depending on the type of flying you are doing.It might be a bit expensive but once you've bought it, you'll never fly 2D cockpits again. If you do get it, please let us know what you think. BTW, it's a fantastic bit of kit... it transformed FSX for me.David

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I would like to see a picture of you doing that lol hahaha

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I love it. I do prefer it in FS9 over FSX however. In FSX you are basically "pinned" to your seat. You can't slide around with the key commands as you can in FS9. Example being if you wanted to use the keys to move over to the right seat and be able to fly and look around from that position, you can't do that in FSX but can in FS9.I use TIR in about everything except FSXJust my preference and 2 cents.

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Well, we've now heard a lot of praise for this product, I'd also like to hear from anybody that has had problems with the unit, whether they returned it for a refund or repair or if they just didn't find it useful for them. Unless of course nobody like that exists.

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I second what Dave just stated above. It is probably my favorite addo on for FS9, but in FSX I stuggle a bit with it. Like Dave said, it is not possible to change your eye point with key commands as it is in FS9. Every time you attempt this with track IR activated it snaps back to the default eye point. There may be a way to move eye points with Track IR running, but I have not been able to find it on my own or on this forum. Scott

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