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Is the updated DLSS file required for a 4090?

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My old system had the frame gen mod and newest DLSS file.  I now have a new PC with a RTX 4090 card that has frame generation without the mod.

Should I still install the new latest DLSS file though?

CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D  RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090
Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440
Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD 
External Storage Three 4Tb HDs

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  • Cpt_Piett
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    Please provide some factual basis for your claim then. In my opinion image quality with DLSS+DLAA is better than TAA.

  • Yes it does matter if you are using DLSS instead of TAA. DLSS is based off AI Machine Learning so the newer the version the more machine learning Nvidia  has done with it. I also have a 4090. I am usi

  • And why do you believe that? Do you understand how AI works? Secondly, I’ve been using each version as they have released and the visual quality and performance have increased as the releases have dro

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6 minutes ago, tpete61 said:

Doesn't matter.

I saw an improvement in MSFS graphics with the DLSS file, so in that respect it does matter.  I just didn't know if that DLSS file was only require for the frame gen mod.

CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D  RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090
Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440
Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD 
External Storage Three 4Tb HDs

Yes it does matter if you are using DLSS instead of TAA. DLSS is based off AI Machine Learning so the newer the version the more machine learning Nvidia  has done with it. I also have a 4090. I am using 3.7.10. 

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1 hour ago, Gulf76 said:

Yes it does matter if you are using DLSS instead of TAA. DLSS is based off AI Machine Learning so the newer the version the more machine learning Nvidia  has done with it. I also have a 4090. I am using 3.7.10. 

Thanks for that - installed 🙂

CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D  RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090
Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440
Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD 
External Storage Three 4Tb HDs

 

2 hours ago, Gulf76 said:

Yes it does matter if you are using DLSS instead of TAA. DLSS is based off AI Machine Learning so the newer the version the more machine learning Nvidia  has done with it. I also have a 4090. I am using 3.7.10. 

There is absolutely no factual basis for your claim!

2 hours ago, tpete61 said:

 

There is absolutely no factual basis for your claim!

And why do you believe that? Do you understand how AI works? Secondly, I’ve been using each version as they have released and the visual quality and performance have increased as the releases have dropped. VR is much smoother now than just 3-4 months ago. 

Yes -- what Gulf76 said above -- I have noticed the newer versions have zero shimmering.  Earlier versions still had some shimmering on my setup.

Rhett

7800X3D 96 GB G.Skill Flare  Gigabyte 4090  Crucial P5 Plus 2TB

I use TAA with my 4090, I see no point in using something that gives worse image quality when I don't need to.

System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I

6 hours ago, tpete61 said:

There is absolutely no factual basis for your claim!

Please provide some factual basis for your claim then.

1 hour ago, Ixoye said:

I use TAA with my 4090, I see no point in using something that gives worse image quality when I don't need to.

In my opinion image quality with DLSS+DLAA is better than TAA.

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7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

Supercomputer Performance

DLSS uses the power of NVIDIA’s supercomputers to train and regularly improve its AI model. The latest models are delivered to your GeForce RTX PC through Game Ready Drivers. Tensor Cores then use their teraFLOPS of dedicated AI horsepower to run the DLSS AI network in real time. This means you get the power of the DLSS supercomputer network to help you boost performance and resolution—and it gets even better over time.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/technologies/dlss/

2 hours ago, Ixoye said:

I use TAA with my 4090, I see no point in using something that gives worse image quality when I don't need to.

The reason I use it over TAA is it allows me to mostly run Ultra Settings with my Pimax Crystal and the last view versions of DLSS have really improved image quality. If I run TAA, I have to reduce the Crystal’s Native Resolution to 80% to get acceptable frame rates with those settings and the lower resolution reduces the visual quality negating any advantage of TAA. None of this is worth arguing about. Everyone has their personal preferences of what works for them and their system. I was just trying to be helpful to the original poster as running an older version of DLSS does not provide the same benefits as the newer versions. 

3 hours ago, Ixoye said:

I use TAA with my 4090, I see no point in using something that gives worse image quality when I don't need to.

On my rig TAA gives shimmering on certain objects.  With DLSS+DLAA I get no shimmering, IQ is sublime.  Really my setup is running so, so well right now.

Rhett

7800X3D 96 GB G.Skill Flare  Gigabyte 4090  Crucial P5 Plus 2TB

I'm using DLSS Quality. TAA slow down MSFS to slideshow in some locations. DLSS always gives at least 40. And I use 4000 series native FG. It's the only non artifact FG that I can see on my system.

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

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7 hours ago, Ixoye said:

I use TAA with my 4090, I see no point in using something that gives worse image quality when I don't need to.

I perceive graphics quality, using frame generation on my 4090 with the latest DLSS file, to be comparable to TAA.  First thing I did on my new PC was compare the two.  With no perceivable difference, it seems pointless to half fps for no gain.

CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D  RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090
Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440
Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD 
External Storage Three 4Tb HDs

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