11 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Did you reset the NCP desktop color settings to default? It occurred to me that it might not be a good idea for me to use your settings there as our monitors are different.

Yes when I recalibrated HDR I set desktop colors to default.

2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Surely HDR toning is meant for an SDR display?  

It definitely works well to brighten up the VC dash differentially, and more so in SDR.  I just flipped HDR back on and it's worth trying to adjust a little better than I have for sure.  Still getting overly bright glass cockpit and colors are wrong in spots.

Edited July 28, 20241 yr by Noel

2 hours ago, Noel said:

colors are wrong in spots.

This is why I find HDR to be so good.  You get a higher brightness in the areas where the display should be bright, plus colours are very good because any filter applied normally needs another filter to dial out the negative effects of another (adding tons of contrast can put the colours out for example). Probably why you need desktop colour settings changed.

I did actually try the details filter with HDR but it was pointless, as HDR is already supplying a bigger brightness/contrast/colour range, so I had to set everything to zero in the details filter anyway. The HDR toning was horrid for me 🙂 All it it did was unnaturally remove contrast that HDR was generating.

All of this of course is dependent on how the monitor is dealing with HDR.  My OLED monitor can turn on/off individual pixels, so doesn't need local dimming zones. Maybe this is affecting what HDR is doing for you?

The most important thing though is to get that display looking how you want, and it sounds like you are very happy with the SDR plus Details filter.

5 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

If you have used the Microsoft HDR calibration tool, brightness would have been tuned to give you max brightness in MSFS.  A filter that adds brightness will undoubtedly make it look overly bright.

Surely HDR toning is meant for an SDR display?  

Is there a tool to calibrate HDR for windows 10?

3 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

The most important thing though is to get that display looking how you want, and it sounds like you are very happy with the SDR plus Details filter.

I like the higher contrast I'm seeing but something isn't right w/ the calibration routine or something.  If I set all NCP Desktop Color to default, then run the Win 11 HDR Calibration app it's still overdone in MSFS.  There is some haloing happening or maybe a better word is a brightness aura around cloud edges in this sunrise but it's overdone.  Maybe that is a function of not being OLED.

Here you go this might help:  what color is the HUD displaying in PMDG 73x?  In SDR it's always a nice brightish green, but with HDR so calibrated it's beige or yellow.  This has nothing to do with the Details filter.  It would be nice to know what you're seeing on this thanks in advance.

Edited July 28, 20241 yr by Noel

1 hour ago, Noel said:

There is some haloing happening or maybe a better word is a brightness aura around cloud edges in this sunrise but it's overdone.  Maybe that is a function of not being OLED.

Possibly the local dimming.  Many complain about aura around objects as the local dimming has to compromise between dark/light in some circumstances.

Question but is anyone using HDR with Lossless Scaling?   I was just wondering if others were seeing the colors "wash out" if they use lossless with HDR enabled.  

Also, is it something you can turn on/off in NVCP during a flight or something that requires restarting FS to enable?

Thank you as always for the help/suggestions 

Fortunately it's only certain objects and certain lighting conditions where it then of course looks less than natural.  Overall I like it and as Cpt-Piett mentions it does take some getting used to, but it definitely adds pop to the overall image.  No wonder OLED is especially useful where contrast ratios are so high.

I think for my next display I will get an LG OLED display. HDR on my current samsung isn't cutting it. Anyone here currently using an LG OLED TV with HDR mode in MSFS that can chime in and tell me how it looks during dawn/dusk/night flights?

That's it for me as well.   For some reason just enough overcooked areas to have me reverting back to my default.  SDR w/ contrast set high along w/ the Details filter gives a better total experience here, though the 'pop' is alluring it's got other issues that unfortunately are dampening value for me.  Maybe OLED would tip that the other way. 

Edited July 28, 20241 yr by Noel

14 minutes ago, captain420 said:

I think for my next display I will get an LG OLED display. HDR on my current samsung isn't cutting it. Anyone here currently using an LG OLED TV with HDR mode in MSFS that can chime in and tell me how it looks during dawn/dusk/night flights?

I don't have one for MSFS but out of all the screens in my house only one is OLED and it is by far the best picture in the house... That's on top of Sony, LG and Samsung's best non OLED sets.  

I run HDR on W11 using this screen -

https://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/558M1RY_00/momentum-4k-hdr-display-with-ambiglow

and can highly recommend it.

Use the cfg file that comes with it to set up the monitor profile and that's it. Stunning colours with MSFS

2 hours ago, psolk said:

Question but is anyone using HDR with Lossless Scaling?   I was just wondering if others were seeing the colors "wash out" if they use lossless with HDR enabled. 

There is a setting in Lossless Scaling to turn HDR support on/off.  It's under 'Frame Generation'.

12 hours ago, captain420 said:

I think for my next display I will get an LG OLED display. HDR on my current samsung isn't cutting it. Anyone here currently using an LG OLED TV with HDR mode in MSFS that can chime in and tell me how it looks during dawn/dusk/night flights?

My LG CX OLED has overall exceptional image quality especially in terms of near infinite contrast ratio i.e. perfect blacks. Sky colours look gorgeous during dusk/dawn. HDR max brightness is not the biggest strength of OLED displays, but I'm very happy with the purchase. 

Edited July 29, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

I must be doing something wrong ... When I got my new monitor (in the sig) I just turned on HDR in Win11, calibrated it and turned on HDR in MSFS - enjoying every single moment of it for the last month or so 😉