In Windows 10, whenever I turn on HDR mode it seems to make everything blurry, especially the text. Is this normal? Trying to run MSFS in HDR mode to see if there's any improvements.

1 hour ago, captain420 said:

In Windows 10, whenever I turn on HDR mode it seems to make everything blurry, especially the text. Is this normal? Trying to run MSFS in HDR mode to see if there's any improvements.

I just started using HDR again after running SDR for several months. No difference in terms of blurriness. Can't think of a reason why it should happen. Could it be something else in your settings causing it?

1 hour ago, captain420 said:

Trying to run MSFS in HDR mode to see if there's any improvements.

Massive improvement - the higher the nits your monitor can produce the better.  I had a 600nit monitor, but changed it for a 1000 nit model.

No idea where your blurriness is coming from - have you used the Microsoft HDR Calibration Tool to tune MSFS output to your monitors peak brightness?

Once I started using HDR, I couldn't go back. W11 handles HDR a lot better than W10 did and I had no bluriness with either.  You need to alter your monitor settings or use the recalibration tool if you do change or you will probably have too much contrast and digital vibrance.

The only problem I had was with screenshots as I used to save them in MS paint, which doesn't handle HDR, so I will need to find a new way (probably worh Nvidia Experience or something).

I do recall something about HDR having to be set on in both windows and MSFS, but I haven't messed around with it for a long time and that may no longer be true.

Nvidia will save two screenshots. One in hdr and one without. So that takes away the need for editing them after. Though windows snip is still a problem for hdr. Usually I’ll just drag a window onto one of my sdr monitors and take the snip off that one. 

25 minutes ago, cianpars said:

Once I started using HDR, I couldn't go back. W11 handles HDR a lot better than W10 did and I had no bluriness with either.  You need to alter your monitor settings or use the recalibration tool if you do change or you will probably have too much contrast and digital vibrance.

The only problem I had was with screenshots as I used to save them in MS paint, which doesn't handle HDR, so I will need to find a new way (probably worh Nvidia Experience or something).

I do recall something about HDR having to be set on in both windows and MSFS, but I haven't messed around with it for a long time and that may no longer be true.

Agree Win11 and HDR but also a quality monitor and calibration 🙂 screenshots is easy in HDR use the game bar feature shift+alt+g 😉

Edited July 25, 20241 yr by virtualstuff

1 hour ago, virtualstuff said:

Agree Win11 and HDR but also a quality monitor and calibration 🙂 screenshots is easy in HDR use the game bar feature shift+alt+g 😉

Ah, I had forgotten about the game bar as I don't use it that often.  I guess I still need a program that can edit them though.

Those screenshots taken in HDR probably won't display very well on SDR screens, nor potentially, on HDR screens with varying brightness maxima. So if you want to create snapshots that you will display on your own HDR screens, that's fine, but if they're posted on the web and displayed on SDR screens the result may be less than ideal. If anyone can explain how to do this successfully, I would be quite interested.

Also, I have a relatively modest HDR capable monitor with a limited maximum brightness of 350 nits. It still is capable of displaying truly astonishing images in MSFS and when combined with 4K resolution creates highly satisfactory views that certainly work for me. I would expect that FS2024 will take this even further once it arrives later this year.

I used HDR briefly until I discovered the GFE Details filter.  That, with some customization of desktop color settings and vibrance and I feel the result is much better, more realistic.  BUT...my last try w/ HDR was on Win 10 so maybe it's worth another look now in Win 11.

2 hours ago, jrw4 said:

Those screenshots taken in HDR probably won't display very well on SDR screens, nor potentially, on HDR screens with varying brightness maxima. So if you want to create snapshots that you will display on your own HDR screens, that's fine, but if they're posted on the web and displayed on SDR screens the result may be less than ideal. If anyone can explain how to do this successfully, I would be quite interested.

Also, I have a relatively modest HDR capable monitor with a limited maximum brightness of 350 nits. It still is capable of displaying truly astonishing images in MSFS and when combined with 4K resolution creates highly satisfactory views that certainly work for me. I would expect that FS2024 will take this even further once it arrives later this year.

That is my biggest gripe with HDR, yes, it looks great but screenshots and other content looks completely washed out for others without HDR. Im on SDR and couldn't be happier.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

I used HDR briefly until I discovered the GFE Details filter

Over the years I have used Reshade and GFE filters to great effect for colour balance, brightness, shadows and much more.  I'm not knocking an SDR display using filters to improve, but I don't see how filters can compare to HDR as far as brightness is concerned..

28 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Over the years I have used Reshade and GFE filters to great effect for colour balance, brightness, shadows and much more.  I'm not knocking an SDR display using filters to improve, but I don't see how filters can compare to HDR as far as brightness is concerned..

I have brightness set at around 55 in NCP desktop color settings and I wouldn't want any more brightness than that.  Gamma is at 93.  And Contrast is at 70.  I forget what my monitor is set at.  Those along w/ the Detail filter create something pretty close to HDR.  I will have another look at HDR10 and see how it compares and report back.

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8 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Massive improvement - the higher the nits your monitor can produce the better.  I had a 600nit monitor, but changed it for a 1000 nit model.

No idea where your blurriness is coming from - have you used the Microsoft HDR Calibration Tool to tune MSFS output to your monitors peak brightness?

Seems like that tool is only for Windows 11. I'm on Windows 10. I'm using a Samsung TV that has HDR. Not sure how many nits it is. But the model is the UN557100FXZA.

Not sure if I want to install Windows 11 just for HDR. I don't want to start all over from scratch by going from Windows 10 > Windows 11.

After making sure it was setup correctly w/ the Win 11 HDR Calibration App or whatever it's called it's just not for me.  It makes some things way too bright whereas the Details filter along w/ desktop color controls dial in perfection for my eyes and it's as bright as desired.  I find with HDR sometimes things that should not be so bright are way too bright. 

6 hours ago, Noel said:

After making sure it was setup correctly w/ the Win 11 HDR Calibration App or whatever it's called it's just not for me.  It makes some things way too bright whereas the Details filter along w/ desktop color controls dial in perfection for my eyes and it's as bright as desired.  I find with HDR sometimes things that should not be so bright are way too bright. 

Certainly HDR makes the sky much to bright for me, but turning the brightness down maakes the ground too dark.  I still prefer it overall though.