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Very, very pleased with the 9950x and the X870E mobo, coming from a 5950x on a X570 platform.
The average increase on MSFS is around 180%.

- PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D //  Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO //  2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 //  ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600  //  Corsair 1600W PSU
Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor.
- Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7. 

   

 

 

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On 9/28/2024 at 9:14 PM, sonny147 said:

this Chip cost me around £400 around 11 months ago it will not apply any expo or manual ram O/C under any circumstances . i have tried a different MB and 3 different sets of RAM , so in two ways iam not getting what i paid for thats why its coming out , great chip in general no doubt but mine isnt 

That’s silicon lottery right there for you. Just bad luck. 

Ivan Majetic

ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO; 7900X3D; NZXT KRAKEN ELITE 360, GIGABYTE RTX 4080; G.SKILL TridentZ NEO RGB DDR5 64 Gb, WD HDD 2TB, SAMSUNG 980PRO, SAMSUNG 970EVO Plus 2x, ALIENWARE 3423DWF

"9950x and the X870E mobo, coming from a 5950x on a X570"

not all that surprising, 4 year old Zen3 vs. latest Zen 5 at twice the cost:

9900-X-vs-5950-user.jpg

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-9900X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X/4171vs4086

 

 

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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3 hours ago, Johnny19 said:

That’s silicon lottery right there for you. Just bad luck. 

yep !

ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS  2TB 980 Pro , MSFS  2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO  . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz  TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack)  Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons 

X870 motherboards: worth it or not?

TL;DR: probably not worth the added price. X670 should be fine for the Ryzen 9000-series. Even a B650 might be fine. 

Btw, no news yet on the upcoming 9800X3D? 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

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9900x working great on my x670e 

ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS  2TB 980 Pro , MSFS  2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO  . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz  TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack)  Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons 

24 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

X870 motherboards: worth it or not?

TL;DR: probably not worth the added price. X670 should be fine for the Ryzen 9000-series. Even a B650 might be fine. 

Btw, no news yet on the upcoming 9800X3D? 

Not worth it.

B650e ... is exactly the same as X870 with the solitary feature added being USB4. and Guess what .. You can get USB4 with an ASROCK Taichi Lite.. which is a B650e board.

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VRMs are higher quality on high-end boards, which *might* result in better overclock stability. 

Ive got a Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX with these specs:

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Twin 16+2+2 Digital VRM Design

  • 70A Smart Power Stage*
  • 2X Copper PCB
  • PCIe 5.0 Ready PCB

* Power Stage maximum current capacity is based on VCORE Phase.

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There’s usually better VRM and MOSFET cooling on the higher-end boards. Not sure how much of that is needed though, to be honest. I’ve been under the impression that it’s probably not very useful outside of those extreme OC scenarios that aim to get insane 3DMark and Cinebench scores.

High-end boards may also have more advanced BIOS settings.

I should probably ask myself why I payed 283USD for this relatively high-end board. IIRC it was one of the most purchased/recommended boards in my country at the time.

I’m using a negative curve on CCD0 as well as improved primary and secondary DDR5 timings. not sure if these type of BIOS settings are available on all boards.

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7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

5 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Ive got a Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX

me too. last time we spoke I thought you had some Intel afterburner heating machine CPU?

you can't overclock the AMD 7850X3D anyway, so VRMs 5% overclocking is no real topic for me and never was ever since we got RTX 4090 FrameGeneration 100% "overclocking" 😄

Edited by turbomax

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

3 hours ago, turbomax said:

last time we spoke I thought you had some Intel afterburner heating machine CPU?

I did indeed (12900K). I decided to switch to the much cooler Ryzen during summer to get bearable temps in my apartment.

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

switch to the much cooler Ryzen during summer to get bearable temps in my apartment.

soon, with fall and winter ante portas, it will be the time again to fire up the Intel afterburner machine to heat your appartment. the AMD simply won't cut it. 🤣

 

p.s. I corrected my post above. I meant to say the opposite:

"you CAN NOT overclock the AMD 7850X3D anyway, so VRMs 5% overclocking potential is no real topic for me". with the AMD 7850X3D we are not in INTEL-Kansas anymore.

Edited by turbomax

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

14 hours ago, David Roch said:

Very, very pleased with the 9950x and the X870E mobo, coming from a 5950x on a X570 platform.
The average increase on MSFS is around 180%.

3 pages of thread and this is the answer I was coming to look for, coming off an aging 5900x that is due for replacement at some point.

2 hours ago, mspencer said:

3 pages of thread and this is the answer I was coming to look for, coming off an aging 5900x that is due for replacement at some point.

It might be worth waiting for the 9800X3D though, as the X3D chips have so far performed really well in MSFS. According to rumors, “clock speeds will get a significant boost over the existing AMD Ryzen 7 78000X3D”.

https://www.techpowerup.com/327149/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-to-feature-significant-clock-speed-boost

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

2 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

It might be worth waiting for the 9800X3D though, as the X3D chips have so far performed really well in MSFS. According to rumors, “clock speeds will get a significant boost over the existing AMD Ryzen 7 78000X3D”.

https://www.techpowerup.com/327149/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-to-feature-significant-clock-speed-boost

Since it'll be "Early 2025" and I can't fathom building a new PC before the end of the year, that's probably the plan!

8 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

“clock speeds will get a significant boost over the existing AMD Ryzen 7 78000X3D”.

what is significant?  even 500 MHz would only be 10%, resulting in ca. 5 % more fps. I honestly expect more from coding optimisation potential in MSFS 2024 at this point.

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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