October 14, 20241 yr 56 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: That seems possible. I haven't had any CTD issues with Atmos, been using it since release. I have flown every flight with Atmos since its release and have not experienced even one CTD, or other issue for that matter. That is (12) flights averaging 1.9 hours per flight. (I maintain my "official log" in Microsoft Excel). I typically am not a first-adopter, but in this case I am very satisfied that I am. I have trusted REX products for over 10 years and have not once been bitten. And please note that Reed and his staff are here. Wish a number of other developers followed suit. Edited October 14, 20241 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
October 14, 20241 yr Yes Im getting CTD after installing Atmos, first one was 6hrs into 8hr flight, all I done was hit the windows key and it crashed, tested over the last few days and it would periodically crash, tried without it and all was fine, I can also duplicate a crash by exiting the flight to main menu and getting "breaking point" message. hope it can be fixed as I love the endless skybox colours and enviroment it can provide.
October 15, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, muddy funkster said: Yes Im getting CTD after installing Atmos, first one was 6hrs into 8hr flight, all I done was hit the windows key and it crashed, tested over the last few days and it would periodically crash, tried without it and all was fine, I can also duplicate a crash by exiting the flight to main menu and getting "breaking point" message. hope it can be fixed as I love the endless skybox colours and enviroment it can provide. only way to get it fixed is to send in your event viewer crash report in a support ticket Edited October 15, 20241 yr by pete_auau I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
October 15, 20241 yr Author Iam not prepered to install Atmos again and start playing the CTD lottery once more,after unistalling it im getting trouble free flights.
October 15, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, GSalden said: Thére must be something you al have in common that causes a crash wheh usung REX Atmos Many like me do not have CTD’s. I might be another addon and I don’t think it would be a scenery addon. ATC addon, weather addon, traffic addon or a certain 3rd party aircraft , to name a few…. Combination GPU - video driver yep you would reakon if it were a bug that it causes ctd everyone would have it, so unless those users that have a ctd send in their event viewer crash ctds to the rex support is the only way to track the issue down I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
October 15, 20241 yr It's great it works for some, but having half a dozen or so users reporting CTDs in a 3 page thread is indicating that something is clearly wrong. One common theme already pointed to USB controllers as it seems to be a common issue that the sim CTD when there's any change to peripherals (reports just in this thread covered controllers, external HDDs and monitors that either go to sleep/wake on their own or get turned on/off - i.e. people turning off their OLED screens during longer cruise phases to preserve energy and screen quality). And just to be clear, in those cases the sim only crashed when Atmos is running. I've been turning my OLED off during cruise for around 500 flights now and the only time it crashed my sim was with Atmos active. Though reading through the list of others that may not necessarily cover all crash scenarios. I'm happy to test "Early Access" that doesn't crash my sim and is clearly labelled as such - I'm quite active in reporting issues to BATC for example. However, I knew what I was getting into when I bought it as the state of the product and what to expect was made abundantly clear. It also never crashed my sim, the worst that happens is that BATC stops working and I restart it to pick up where I left off. Atmos seems like an unfinished product that isn't labelled as such (UI, stability...) and I have absolutely no desire to test it and report errors on something that potentially crashes my sim. MSFS24 is weeks away, thanks but no thanks - I'll just enjoy my sim as I have done for the last 4 years anyway in the knowledge that I can actually complete my flight. Edited October 15, 20241 yr by Speedbird 217
October 15, 20241 yr I haven't had any trouble with Atmos myself - though I admit everyone's system will be different, so *please* report the issue (with as much information as possible) to REX. I've had a long relationship with REX (as a user and occasional beta tester) and can absolutely state that they do listen and respond. Be patient (!) - I'm sure there'll be a solution.
October 15, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Speedbird 217 said: One common theme already pointed to USB controllers as it seems to be a common issue that the sim CTD when there's any change to peripherals (reports just in this thread covered controllers, external HDDs and monitors that either go to sleep/wake on their own or get turned on/off - i.e. people turning off their OLED screens during longer cruise phases to preserve energy and screen quality). And just to be clear, in those cases the sim only crashed when Atmos is running. This ↑ I have been too long in this hobby, just to yell IT CRASHED MY SIM!!!! I am very happy for the rest of you who don't have issues with running Atmos. But, emphasizing again, I haven't had issues with the sim before Atmos. So, to summarize: - i don't have conflicting addons - i don't have pc/hardware/driver issues crashing the sim, other games or windows' install - no issues prior to installing Atmos - will send my error report to REX later today Ivan Majetic ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO; 7900X3D; NZXT KRAKEN ELITE 360, GIGABYTE RTX 4080; G.SKILL TridentZ NEO RGB DDR5 64 Gb, WD HDD 2TB, SAMSUNG 980PRO, SAMSUNG 970EVO Plus 2x, ALIENWARE 3423DWF
October 15, 20241 yr Author Well said Johnny,Atmos IS causing CTD for some people,but as i said earlier im not prepered to install it again to play the CTD lottery just to send reports to Rex,its not that important to me,a stable sim is,thats what i have with Atmos no where near my system. Edited October 15, 20241 yr by Benbo
October 15, 20241 yr 51 minutes ago, Johnny19 said: This ↑ I have been too long in this hobby, just to yell IT CRASHED MY SIM!!!! I am very happy for the rest of you who don't have issues with running Atmos. But, emphasizing again, I haven't had issues with the sim before Atmos. So, to summarize: - i don't have conflicting addons - i don't have pc/hardware/driver issues crashing the sim, other games or windows' install - no issues prior to installing Atmos - will send my error report to REX later today You surely have something conflicting with REX Atmos, otherwise you would not have CTD’s as me and many otters are experiencing this. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 15, 20241 yr 40 minutes ago, GSalden said: You surely have something conflicting with REX Atmos, otherwise you would not have CTD’s as me and many otters are experiencing this. I just love when people here like to be very smart and persuasive and not accepting simple fact. We all get it that the app works for you, and we are happy for you. But for some it doesn't work. I can live without Atmos. Edited October 15, 20241 yr by Johnny19 Ivan Majetic ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO; 7900X3D; NZXT KRAKEN ELITE 360, GIGABYTE RTX 4080; G.SKILL TridentZ NEO RGB DDR5 64 Gb, WD HDD 2TB, SAMSUNG 980PRO, SAMSUNG 970EVO Plus 2x, ALIENWARE 3423DWF
October 15, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Johnny19 said: I just love when people here like to be very smart *** and persuasive and not accepting simple fact. We all get it that the app works for you, and we are happy for you. But for some it doesn't work. I can live without Atmos. Yup! If you repeat something often enough it doesn't make it any more valid... My CTD was on a fresh Win11 install with the PMDG 737, YSSY from FlyTampa & NZAA from Flightbeam. BATC was handling my ATC/Traffic. That's hardly "conflicting addons" as it's as close to vanilla MSFS as one can get. Stopped using Atmos, no more CTDs... As others and myself have said, one repeated observation is USB controller changes seemingly increasing the likelihood of CTDs, i.e. mine was when I turned my screen back on in cruise. That has not caused a CTD for me in hundreds of flights before and none since. It's not that I run hundreds of addons in the community folder, I keep mine very lean and never have an issue otherwise.
October 15, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, Speedbird 217 said: Yup! If you repeat something often enough it doesn't make it any more valid... My CTD was on a fresh Win11 install with the PMDG 737, YSSY from FlyTampa & NZAA from Flightbeam. BATC was handling my ATC/Traffic. That's hardly "conflicting addons" as it's as close to vanilla MSFS as one can get. Stopped using Atmos, no more CTDs... As others and myself have said, one repeated observation is USB controller changes seemingly increasing the likelihood of CTDs, i.e. mine was when I turned my screen back on in cruise. That has not caused a CTD for me in hundreds of flights before and none since. It's not that I run hundreds of addons in the community folder, I keep mine very lean and never have an issue otherwise. So you are using multiple Addons …. No vanilla sim. You are only looking at one app and thats okay. But if REX only is causing this; why only a few are having CTD’s and all others not ? 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 15, 20241 yr 55 minutes ago, Johnny19 said: I just love when people here like to be very smart and persuasive and not accepting simple fact. We all get it that the app works for you, and we are happy for you. But for some it doesn't work. 44 minutes ago, Speedbird 217 said: Yup! If you repeat something often enough it doesn't make it any more valid... It does though. Why? Because, seemingly, Atmos is the app that pushes your not perfectly stable systems / sims beyond their capabilities, causing these CTDs. If it wasn't Atmos, it would be another app. It's not to say you aren't experiencing CTDs. Rather the cause is unlikely to be solely the fault of Atmos, since complaints of CTDs where Atmos is in use are a small fraction of the total Atmos userbase. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
October 15, 20241 yr This debate is so pointless now and the counter arguments are becoming a bit ridiculous. My system is fine, thanks. I’ve been running MSFS without a single crash in very heavy scenarios with loads of addons, traffic, weather and just about anything else for years and the moment I add Atmos to a freshly installed sim that barely has a thing installed in it yet I get CTDs. But sure, it’s always the user’s fault rather than the half a dozen or so of us in this thread stating the only thing that makes our sims crash is Atmos. Not sure what else we can say really. I’m out. Have fun using Atmos as long as it doesn’t crash your systems.
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