4 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

They were afraid that beta testing 2024, would shower them with Beta testers telling them " What ever you do, don't release this POS". 

I have been excited to use it since day two.  Brilliant sim.

6 hours ago, Ant1975uk said:

Man there are some proper shills for Microsoft on this forum. 

What is a 'shill'?

Edited January 2, 20251 yr by MrBitstFlyer

"Shill" is the correct spelling, denoting someone who promotes or endorses something for self-interest or deceitfully.

 

 

Edited January 2, 20251 yr by Ron Attwood
I thought schill was the correct spelling. 🙄

13 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

"Shill" is the correct spelling, denoting someone who promotes or endorses something for self-interest or deceitfully.

 

 

Oh thank you.  I own up then, I am only saying 2024 is good because I have a gun pointing at my head.

First sorry for my bad english 

The lighting has improved but I think it still has room for improvement, the physics has unquestionably improved for me were the two most critical points to improve from 2020.

Biomes is fine if you like flying Bush for me is totally dispensable.

The photogrammetry is a disaster it has more failures than 2020 so the second day I have already deactivated it, the orthos are still in the style of 2020 if I were to fly it I would pay again the subscription of map enhacement.

The amazing performance works better than 2020 and Xp12 logically you have to know the limits of your hardware I have 16 GB of RAM a 3060ti and a 11700.

I have a very good fiber connection and there is the key to this simulator as they have raised it 100% online and why there are so many different opinions, it is not only necessary to have a fast connection also has to be stable and the same servers where you live

The rest is a totally immature product, I can not consider it or beta because apart from having a lot of bugs missing many things that should have been removed from the beginning. Surely many will be enjoying it but you can not say anything different without wanting to deceive the rest of users and potential buyers.

In short in a few months I am sure that if your connection and servers work well 2024 will be a very good product, unfortunately it will leave many people out if they do not reconsider a semi offline mode or even offline for those who require it.

31 minutes ago, Aglos77 said:

The rest is a totally immature product, I can not consider it or beta because apart from having a lot of bugs missing many things that should have been removed from the beginning. Surely many will be enjoying it but you can not say anything different without wanting to deceive the rest of users and potential buyers.

I can say anything different, and I will 🙂 It's working fine - most of the time. Sometimes it's jaw-droppingly amazing (e.g. 4000x ground resolution, mountain cliffs is a game-changer), other times it's a pain in the word not allowed (controls assignments getting *deleted* all of a sudden, PG being a word not allowed performance hog, no way to disable the "toggle EFB" in walkaround mode when you want to take a glorious 3rd person screenshot after a completed flight). 

What am I saying here? It's a mixed bag. Sometimes amazing, sometimes not. IMO: mostly it is very good 🙂 

Edited January 2, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett

26 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Puedo decir cualquier cosa diferente y lo haré 🙂 Funciona bien, la mayor parte del tiempo. A veces es asombrosamente asombroso (por ejemplo, resolución de terreno de 4000x, los acantilados de montaña cambian el juego), otras veces es un fastidio en el uso de palabras no permitidas (las asignaciones de controles se *eliminan* de repente, PG es una palabra no permitida que consume mucho rendimiento, no hay forma de desactivar la opción "activar EFB" en el modo de recorrido cuando quieres tomar una gloriosa captura de pantalla en tercera persona después de un vuelo completo). 

¿Qué estoy diciendo? Es una mezcla de cosas. A veces es increíble, a veces no. En mi opinión: en general es muy bueno 🙂 

In free flight I have had few problems I have to be honest but I'm sure because I've been lucky that the servers are fine and my connection apart from fast is very very stable. There are very broken planes and many and strange things. There are areas that are a wonder to fly like the grand canyon others unfortunately like 2020son horrible.

 

The important thing and what I keep is that I finally feel like I'm an airplane when I do the taxi at the airport and the last 50 feet before landing I also had very good feelings. I think it has made me change my mind and surely later I bought it, although except for the free inherited from 2020 I will not invest much more are offline mode in addons as I have already commented on occasion I had enough with Google Stadia to make the same mistake.

5 minutes ago, Aglos77 said:

The important thing and what I keep is that I finally feel like I'm an airplane when I do the taxi at the airport and the last 50 feet before landing I also had very good feelings. I think it has made me change my mind and surely later I bought it, although except for the free inherited from 2020 I will not invest much more are offline mode in addons as I have already commented on occasion I had enough with Google Stadia to make the same mistake.

I didn't understand everything, but it's okay. I guess something got lost in translation. Btw - can you translate jaw-droppingly with asombrosamente? Just curious - I don't speak Spanish. 

57 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

in walkaround mode when you want to take a glorious 3rd person screenshot after a completed flight). 

Off topic: how can I see the walking pilot in 3rd person view? I just couldn't find this.

8 minutes ago, crimplene said:

Off topic: how can I see the walking pilot in 3rd person view? I just couldn't find this.

Use the external view assignment. I'll double-check once I'm in the sim!

27 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I didn't understand everything, but it's okay. I guess something got lost in translation. Btw - can you translate jaw-droppingly with asombrosamente? Just curious - I don't speak Spanish. 

Yes, jaw-droppingly = asombrosamente 

1 hour ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Oh thank you.  I own up then, I am only saying 2024 is good because I have a gun pointing at my head.

Judging by how often you are in here defending MS2024 at every opportunity, regardless of the treasure trove of bugs it comes with, even if it turned bad for you, at this point you’ll never admit here regardless of what you say.

8 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Use the external view assignment. I'll double-check once I'm in the sim!

Screenshots might look a bit wonky, because of HDR!

Edited January 2, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett

1 hour ago, B777ER said:

Judging by how often you are in here defending MS2024 at every opportunity, regardless of the treasure trove of bugs it comes with, even if it turned bad for you, at this point you’ll never admit here regardless of what you say.

No, I would never admit the CTDs drive me nuts at times.  Neither would I admit the sound breaking up and disappearing sometimes drives me crazy.  My defence of MSFS generally is in regard to those 'its rubbish' posts we often see.  Clearly it isn't rubbish and I will say so, in the hope those considering 2024 don't get a skewed idea of the product.

I don't want to occupy a space where there is only negativity and a lopsided balance of views.

3 hours ago, Aglos77 said:

Surely many will be enjoying it but you can not say anything different without wanting to deceive the rest of users

I must try harder to be honest about my experience. 

I think MSFS, despite the bugs, is an excellent sim that bodes well for the future.  Oh no, I deceived everyone again 😁